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Old 07-14-2019, 05:59 PM   #106
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Pushing completely broken packages in current is a clear sign that those packages haven't been tested at all.
Putting them into -current is the way they are tested. Pat only has the one machine, so when they do build for him, he puts them into -current for wider testing. The people running -current are the test team!
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:08 PM   #107
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Well, you should be able to give a complete list of those broken packages in a moment's notice. Please do so.
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:10 PM   #108
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With the exception of libcairo, there really hasn't been a broken thing in current?
 
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Old 07-14-2019, 06:10 PM   #109
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If you don't like the Slackware model, there's nothing stopping you from forking Slackware and running your own distribution on whatever model you like.
 
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:21 PM   #110
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My only disappointment with 14.2 was the recent kernel vs nvidia-legacy snafu which lead me to compile kernel version 4.4.163 for my legacy laptop. That said, 14.2 has been truly exceptional IMHO. I chose Slackware long ago because it was the fastest distribution and, once one grasped the /etc/rc.d/rc.xxx startup system and slackpkg, the easiest to maintain. I believe the thing that would help Slackware the most is better documentation on how to use it as a server or desktop OS. For the most part, this is simply how to set up existing programs, which knowledge is too often assumed, or the directions are passed off to an outside source. I think the overwhelming usability factor is user understanding. There is an impression that Slackware is only for geeks or sophisticated users, while the fact is Slackware is ideal for the unsophisticated ignoramus because it just works. The key to growth is new users, and Slackware has a reputation as difficult and intimidating. I cannot express how frustrating it is to be trying to use a program only to find one was not told the basic first few steps or one must decode the entire software stack or deal with constant security updates. Once someone learns how to use Slackware for a useful purpose, e.g. file server, web server, media box, productivity desktop, or whatever, they will stick with it because, as I said, it just works. I also think that much of the documentation actually exists, but it is not that easy to find and often doesn't have a good explanation of context. One can go too far in the hand-holding direction, but clear steps to a usable setup should usually be enough. So rather than trying to cope with corporate marketing strategies, Slackware developers should focus on user friendly operations, such as basic "use case" documentation. Slackware is so stable and reliable that my practice is to choose hardware that is compatible rather than an OS to suit the new tech.
 
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