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Old 11-06-2004, 10:34 AM   #1
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Gnome survey


Should Slackware Kill Gnome?
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No

53.78% [356 votes]

Yes

46.22% [306 votes]

Taken from slackcare..... LOL this is looking like a presidential race, looks like the world is divided on this issue.. heh
 
Old 11-06-2004, 10:50 AM   #2
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I love gnome... I don't like the prospect of having to use dropline at all...dropline is far too intrusive and babies the crap out of anyone who installs it.. if it could be integrated into slackware without doing all this I would have no problem with it.. but currently it's an enourmous haphazard bundle of not that great stuff...
but please note that that didn't stop me from installing it so I could have gnome 2.8... I simply wish gnome weren't so hard to compile...
this wouldn't even be an issue..
 
Old 11-06-2004, 11:44 AM   #3
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I converted to Slackware due to dropline (I don't use it anymore) and I wish it just installed the gnome binaries without having to replace things like x.org. I am not a big GNOME fan but it would be a pity if it was dropped from slackware.
 
Old 11-06-2004, 11:50 AM   #4
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I tend to switch a lot.. mostly between kde gnome and fluxbox.. I might try windowmaker or enlightenment in the future. and it was a pain to install ENLIGHTENMENT!! a lightweight wm.. there are many things about gnome that would make it a MUCH bigger pain and considering that gnome is my currrent favorite it would suck to not have the choice.. thot's the biggest problem most people have with this... the choice.. one sholud have the ability to choose without installing dropline
 
Old 11-06-2004, 11:54 AM   #5
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I'm a CLI guy, but I go with KDE / Blackbox if I'm messing around. Gnome is pretty and seems slightly more responsize than KDE. I cannot believe how much of a pain it must be to maintain considering that it's coded in C.
 
Old 11-06-2004, 12:08 PM   #6
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considering that it's coded in C
In my opinion C++ is better for Graphic Programming. KDE, fluxbox and certainly many others WM
are written in C++.
 
Old 11-06-2004, 12:13 PM   #7
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C++ is better for everything
C is a total pain. Evey displaying formatted strings is a bother.
 
Old 11-06-2004, 12:16 PM   #8
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C is good for security as it is more strict with memory use, it can protect it well.
 
Old 11-06-2004, 12:32 PM   #9
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there are strong arguments both for and against object-oriented programming.. mostly centered around C and C++
it's really an ease-of-use thing c is somewhat more effecient.. c++ is easier.. it depends on what you're doing and who you are
 
Old 11-06-2004, 06:09 PM   #10
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i heard someone say gnome was like american chinese food: every once in a while you want some, and then when you're done you can't think of why you wanted it because it was so nasty, and then you are all gassy and bloated....
 
Old 11-07-2004, 05:09 PM   #11
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how fortunate you are that it wasn't you..
 
Old 11-08-2004, 06:32 AM   #12
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I like Gnome also and it is a pain to build.
If it was not for the effort of Developers like Pat it's use I feel would be less.
My Gnome version is somewhere between 2.6 -2.8 with some dropline flavoring.
I have all the utilities of DL Gnome. Evolution is version 2.0. Mozilla 1.7.3. Firebird. Droplines themes and then some.
Libs are mixed. Gnome is stable but the latest flashplayer blinks both mozilla and firefox out on certain flash anim's.

When you can't find something to suit your needs -- build it...
 
Old 11-08-2004, 10:54 AM   #13
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Is the question about the window managers that come with the environments, or the environments themselves?

If it is about the window managers, the question is moot. If the question is about the environment, then it is a very good question.

I presently use several programs that have gnome dependencies. Two that quickly come to mind are gnucash and gramps. Gnucash uses pre-gnome2 libraries, which are an inconvenience to install. I have yet to install gramps successfully, since I converted to Slackware. There are others, but I cannot remember them at the moment.

My point: There are many programs out there that need the gnome libraries. If Slackware decides not to include it in the future, then many will look toward Dropline to obtain the necessary packages.
 
Old 11-08-2004, 10:51 PM   #14
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Why not keep the GTK/GTK+ libs.... and leave Gnome for Dropline?

I mean, not every GTK based app needs to be built against Gnome. They can be built against just GTK+ and/or xfce.
 
Old 11-08-2004, 11:26 PM   #15
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I started on gnome, was instantly converted to KDE upon first usage. I stayed with KDE for a while, and was very impressed with the KDE 3.2 that was integrated into SuSE 9.1. I then installed slackware 10.0 to dual boot because I was tiered of SuSE and Yast babying me through everything... and i'm rambling so I'll get to the point ... SCREW GNOME ... go with fluxbox for performance and style! (Or KDE if you're a big baby).

Oh and on the C / C++ debate, I'm very much for C for the same reason's i'm Flux over KDE. Both are nice, but for performance, and REAL efficiency you use C.
 
  


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