Gnome Slackware 10.2

Ed_999 · 06-16-2006, 02:58 PM

How do I get Gnome for Slackware 10.2 ?
Slackware used to offer Gnome, but I don't
see it anywhere. Can Gnome be installed
on Slackware 10.2? Does anyone know how?
I miss Gnome. KDE is Ok but I get bored
with it and there are some programs that really
need Gnome to run. Any advice would be welcome.

simcox1 · 06-16-2006, 03:17 PM

Unfortunately gnome is no longer a part of the official slackware distribution, so you have to use one of the unofficial gnome packages. One of them is Freerock Gnome.

Nylex · 06-16-2006, 04:58 PM

You don't have to use one of those to get GNOME; you can always use one of the GNOME build scripts. Doing so would probably take longer to install and perhaps not be as easy, but the option is still there at least. Then of course there's building GNOME totally from scratch, which I intend to try one day.

liquidtenmilion · 06-16-2006, 05:29 PM

Dropline gnome is the way to go if you want a gnome desktop, whereas I would recommend Freerock gnome if you just want the libraries.(to compile Gnome apps)

Dropline is perhaps the best gnome desktop on any platform, even better than Ubuntu/SuSe/Redhat's offerings.

athanatos · 06-16-2006, 05:33 PM

From the slackware-10.2 changelog:

Code:

gnome/*:  Removed from -current, and turned over to community support and
  distribution.  I'm not going to rehash all the reasons behind this, but it's
  been under consideration for more than four years.  There are already good
  projects in place to provide Slackware GNOME for those who want it, and
  these are more complete than what Slackware has shipped in the past.  So, if
  you're looking for GNOME for Slackware -current, I would recommend looking at
  these two projects for well-built packages that follow a policy of minimal
  interference with the base Slackware system:

    http://gsb.sf.net
    http://gware.sf.net

  There is also Dropline, of course, which is quite popular.  However, due to
  their policy of adding PAM and replacing large system packages (like the
  entire X11 system) with their own versions, I can't give quite the same sort
  of nod to Dropline.  Nevertheless, it remains another choice, and it's _your_
  system, so I will also mention their project:

    http://www.dropline.net/gnome/

  Please do not incorrectly interpret any of this as a slight against GNOME
  itself, which (although it does usually need to be fixed and polished beyond
  the way it ships from upstream more so than, say, KDE or XFce) is a decent
  desktop choice.  So are a lot of others, but Slackware does not need to ship
  every choice.  GNOME is and always has been a moving target (even the
  "stable" releases usually aren't quite ready yet) that really does demand a
  team to keep up on all the changes (many of which are not always well
  documented).  I fully expect that this move will improve the quality of both
  Slackware itself, and the quality (and quantity) of the GNOME options
  available for it.

  Folks, this is how open source is supposed to work.  Enjoy.  :-)

If you use packages from linuxpackages.net you may want to try out freerock gnome as that is the gnome distribution that is used when making a
slackware/gnome package at linuxpackages.

gnashley · 06-17-2006, 12:02 PM

See this thread for what may be a partial solution:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=455513

Okie · 06-17-2006, 03:36 PM

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stevesk · 06-17-2006, 05:11 PM

I tried freerock gnome but not even firefox was working anymore because of libs problems. I tried dropline, seems to be ok.

georgejc · 07-07-2006, 01:44 PM

Just a quick warning concerning dropline gnome.

After I installed dropline gnome for my x86_64 based system that is using Slamd64-10.2b (an unofficial port of Slackware 10.2), it essentially killed my system.

My basic everyday apps still ran fine, and I *thought* that I just saved myself a lot of time, but I soon discovered that my most important apps simply would not run anymore.

Cinelerra http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 crashed on startup. Yes, I know that Cinelerra has its quirks, but there are no other comparable video editing apps for Linux. And, most importantly for me, jack (low latency audio server) http://jackaudio.org would not run properly.
Recompiles of jack & cinelerra did not help. And no jack means no Ardour http://ardour.org or any other of my many excellent audio apps.

Since it was a new system, I decided to do a fresh install, *WITHOUT* dropline. And, I compiled gnome-2.14.2 myself. This way, I know that I won't be doing any system changes like dropline does.

I also installed gnome into /opt/gnome-2.14.2 so this way, any upgrades would be easier than using /usr/local .

I'm not slamming the good people behind dropline, but, you may want to consider another gnome distribution, especially for x86_64 systems.

zborgerd · 07-07-2006, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgejc

Just a quick warning concerning dropline gnome.

After I installed dropline gnome for my x86_64 based system that is using Slamd64-10.2b (an unofficial port of Slackware 10.2), it essentially killed my system.

My basic everyday apps still ran fine, and I *thought* that I just saved myself a lot of time, but I soon discovered that my most important apps simply would not run anymore.

Cinelerra http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 crashed on startup. Yes, I know that Cinelerra has its quirks, but there are no other comparable video editing apps for Linux. And, most importantly for me, jack (low latency audio server) http://jackaudio.org would not run properly.
Recompiles of jack & cinelerra did not help. And no jack means no Ardour http://ardour.org or any other of my many excellent audio apps.

Since it was a new system, I decided to do a fresh install, *WITHOUT* dropline. And, I compiled gnome-2.14.2 myself. This way, I know that I won't be doing any system changes like dropline does.

I also installed gnome into /opt/gnome-2.14.2 so this way, any upgrades would be easier than using /usr/local .

I'm not slamming the good people behind dropline, but, you may want to consider another gnome distribution, especially for x86_64 systems.

Dropline tampers way too much with your original system.

Hmm. It would appear that you've posted this message in about 8 different threads that are related to Dropline. Not sure why you did that, but I guess you've gotten your point across.

It should be noted that Dropline GNOME for Slamd64 is not the same as Dropline GNOME for Slackware. The Slamd version is ported by a single, dedicated developer, and is still in a testing phase. In a way, it's an "unofficial" port of Dropline GNOME and will likely remain that way. It also has a different set of packages from what is included in the standard Dropline GNOME distribution.

Regardless, there is no logical reason why Cinelerra might not work in Dropline vs. your own custom GNOME install. It's hard to tell, now, without any actual information in regards to the crash bug.

I would suspect that there is a deeper problem that cannot be traced now. However, there is no reason that you shouldn't use the right software for you. If that is your own custom GNOME build, then it's probably a good choice.

georgejc · 07-09-2006, 11:59 AM

When I first came across dropline, I didn't know about some of the other gnome distros. I was VERY disappointed with the problems that I had with it..... including the malfunctioning uninstall feature... on both my Slackware 10.2 and Slamd64 machine.

I would be curious if other people with multi-processor machines are having any problems with dropline, and I am wondering if it may be an AMD64 issue.