GNOME Projects for Slackware .. which one like more ? (for discussion)

alMubarmij · 02-15-2009, 10:52 PM

At present there are many GNOME Projects for Slackware:

* Dropline GNOME http://www.droplinegnome.org,
* GNOME SlackBuild or (GSB) http://gnomeslackbuild.org/ (formerly: Freerock GNOME)
* GWARE http://www.gware.org
* Gnome-Slacky http://www.slacky.eu/index.php?optio...k=view&id=2475

These projects exist because Slackware does not officially include GNOME, but a large number of users would prefer to have GNOME installed without having to go through the lengthy process of compiling it from source code.

There are another projects for building GNOME, like SlackBot and SlackBuilds which provides automated build script system.

Here is what Patrick Volkerding said about dropping GNOME from the official Slackware distro:

Quote:

gnome/*: Removed from -current, and turned over to community support and
distribution. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons behind this, but it's
been under consideration for more than four years. There are already good
projects in place to provide Slackware GNOME for those who want it, and
these are more complete than what Slackware has shipped in the past. So, if
you're looking for GNOME for Slackware -current, I would recommend looking at
these two projects for well-built packages that follow a policy of minimal
interference with the base Slackware system:

http://gsb.sf.net
http://gware.sf.net

There is also Dropline, of course, which is quite popular. However, due to
their policy of adding PAM and replacing large system packages (like the
entire X11 system) with their own versions, I can't give quite the same sort
of nod to Dropline. Nevertheless, it remains another choice, and it's _your_
system, so I will also mention their project:

http://www.dropline.net/gnome/

Please do not incorrectly interpret any of this as a slight against GNOME
itself, which (although it does usually need to be fixed and polished beyond
the way it ships from upstream more so than, say, KDE or XFce) is a decent
desktop choice. So are a lot of others, but Slackware does not need to ship
every choice. GNOME is and always has been a moving target (even the
"stable" releases usually aren't quite ready yet) that really does demand a
team to keep up on all the changes (many of which are not always well
documented). I fully expect that this move will improve the quality of both
Slackware itself, and the quality (and quantity) of the GNOME options
available for it.

Folks, this is how open source is supposed to work. Enjoy. :-)

So ..
if you use GNOME with Slackware which one you chose ?
And Why ?

kite · 02-16-2009, 06:52 AM

I am a gnome refugee under slackware. I am using gsb, which is the only option now for slackware 12.2

Didier Spaier · 02-16-2009, 07:21 AM

I do not miss the Gnome desktop, nor the KDE desktop, though I prefer it, as I am in a mood of using a windows manager instead -- Fluxbox at time of writing.

I do like some applications built on top of Gnome libraries though, like for instance Inkscape.

Hopefully there are SlackBuilds available for it and its dependencies @ http://slackbuilds.org. So far, so good.

alMubarmij · 02-16-2009, 08:11 AM

And here is also GNOME tgz packages from GoblinX-3.0 Distro which based on Slackware and Live Scripts:

http://goblinx.linuxish.net/goblinx-...goblinx/gnome/
http://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/gob...goblinx/gnome/
But needs to get some dependencies from "l" directory.

Su-Shee · 02-16-2009, 10:36 AM

If I use Gnome, I use GSlacky - very recent, updated for new Slackwares/new Gnome versions in a very timely manner, as stable as Gnome can get, nice assortment of packages and little goodies, fool proof installation - well done.

kite · 02-16-2009, 10:51 AM

are you sure that Gslacky has update for 12.2? I saw it is for 12.1 only for the time being.

Is goblinx for LiveCD/pendrive only? Is it compatible with slackware 12.2?

Ilgar · 02-16-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alMubarmij

At present there are many GNOME Projects for Slackware:
...

OK this is kind of off-topic, but nevertheless, I want to make these two points

:

- The possibilities for "..... which one is better?" threads is endless and I doubt their usefulness. If you are interested in choosing among several options the best thing to do is to make some research and try it yourself. Everyone has a different taste and generally it's not possible to come to an agreement on the answers.

- Your message body is from Wikipedia. It's good practice to indicate your quotes and their sources.

dunric · 02-16-2009, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

...
I do like some applications built on top of Gnome libraries though, like for instance Inkscape.
...

Surprisingly, Inkscape does not require Gnome libraries

Didier Spaier · 02-16-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dunric

Surprisingly, Inkscape does not require Gnome libraries

Strictly speaking, you are right.

Nevertheless, to be built it does require glibmm and gtkmm which are part of the gtk / gnome environment and are not included in Slackware. And it is obvious from the GUI appearance that it is more of a gnome-ish application.

Anyhow, this discussion is a bit out of topic.

alMubarmij · 02-16-2009, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilgar

- Your message body is from Wikipedia. It's good practice to indicate your quotes and their sources.

I wrote this section in Wikipedia by two languages. so I am the source :)

NyteOwl · 02-16-2009, 02:15 PM

The comment by Pat is also a bit dated as Dropline has reduced dramatically the number of changes it makes in the system since it was first created.

alMubarmij · 02-17-2009, 12:03 AM

http://slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=33405

Su-Shee · 02-17-2009, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Strictly speaking, you are right.

Nevertheless, to be built it does require glibmm and gtkmm which are part of the gtk / gnome environment and are not included in Slackware. And it is obvious from the GUI appearance that it is more of a gnome-ish application.

Anyhow, this discussion is a bit out of topic.

Those are just the C++ bindungs for Gtk and totally independent from anything gnome-ish.

Either Gimp and Inkscape are entirely gnome-free.

Inkscape has - and so does Firefox - Gtk look and feel which just happens to be the chosen widget set of Gnome.

It's a common misconception that Gtk is something coming out of Gnome - it's not.

Gnome is built on top of Gtk, nevertheless - as is Xfce.

Didier Spaier · 02-17-2009, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Su-Shee

Those are just the C++ bindungs for Gtk and totally independent from anything gnome-ish.

Either Gimp and Inkscape are entirely gnome-free.

Inkscape has - and so does Firefox - Gtk look and feel which just happens to be the chosen widget set of Gnome.

It's a common misconception that Gtk is something coming out of Gnome - it's not.

Gnome is built on top of Gtk, nevertheless - as is Xfce.

Granted.

So, what ?

metrofox · 02-17-2009, 06:43 AM

I'd choose gnome-slacky for two reasons:

-It's italian(as me)
-It's stable and slacky.eu has a lot of persons who work on packages everyday(take a look here to see slackware 12.2 repository: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackwar.../ChangeLog.txt)
-It's an official distribution and it is famous all over the world(by slackers I mean).
-It's pure and clean like the virgin slackware.
-It's completely supported and works perfectly without any problem or trouble.

Any way, try it, I can just tell you that the first time I've used it I was completely satisfied about it. Many congratulations to italian packagers.