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Old 06-08-2017, 10:48 PM   #1
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get network information on KDE without networkmanager?


I'm running slackware64 14.2 with a wireless NIC, but not running networkmanager. I know I can open a terminal window and get network info via the command line, but is there a way to get any network info from the KDE desktop w/o networkmanager?
 
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Kinfocenter will provide information about your network interfaces and hardware.

System Settings-->Network and Connectivity provides some additional information.

Knetattach can be used to manage shares over the network.

Those are a few off the top of my head.
 
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There's also wicd-kde. It is the GUI frontend of wicd, which is a very good command line tool for network management.
 
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There's also wicd-kde. It is the GUI frontend of wicd, which is a very good command line tool for network management.
I'm trying to find something on wicd-kde, but I'm having no luck. Currently, I have networkManager disabled and am using inet1.conf/wpa_supplicant. Can you give me any clues on firing up wicd-kde? Do I have to disable inet.conf/wpa_supplicant first? Do I need to start wicd (netconfig)?
 
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I'm trying to find something on wicd-kde, but I'm having no luck.
Strange. It is part of Slackware, you can find the wicd-kde package in the KDE series. The wicd package is in /extra .
 
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:36 AM   #6
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but is there a way to get any network info from the KDE desktop w/o networkmanager?
How about wpa_gui? It comes with 14.2, the launch icon is between Thunderbird and Zenmap on the XFCE Internet menu, Slackware64 it is same on kde menu IIRC. My netbook with wireless is running current sans kde at the moment (flawlessly) so I can't test for real.
wpa_gui shows up fine on my desktop after feeding the root passwd, then runs in the system tray but there's no wlan card for me to observe. I guess you are running wpa_supplicant if wireless.

HTH
 
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Old 06-12-2017, 10:05 PM   #7
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Strange. It is part of Slackware, you can find the wicd-kde package in the KDE series. The wicd package is in /extra .
Yes, I know that. wicd-kde is installed and, as you say, wicd is extra. But, there is no man page I can find on actually setting it up. I'm currently running inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant at boot-time. I don't know if these have to be disabled (as they do with networkManager) or if wicd-kde uses these. Bottom line, how do I move from boot-time inet1.conf and wpa_supplicant to wicd-kde?
 
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How about wpa_gui? It comes with 14.2, the launch icon is between Thunderbird and Zenmap on the XFCE Internet menu, Slackware64 it is same on kde menu IIRC. My netbook with wireless is running current sans kde at the moment (flawlessly) so I can't test for real.
wpa_gui shows up fine on my desktop after feeding the root passwd, then runs in the system tray but there's no wlan card for me to observe. I guess you are running wpa_supplicant if wireless.
EYo - That looks precisely like what I want! I ran wpa_gui from the KDE Laucher search box and it gives me all the info. The manpage (yes, unlike wicd there *is* a manpage) says that, "wpa_gui supports (almost) all of the interactive status and configuration features of the command line client, wpa_cli." Best of all, it interacts with the running wpa_supplicant, so no questions -- like I asked Alien Bob -- or worries about which network manager needs to start (or not start) at boot time.

I know you (EYo) are not running KDE or wpa_supplicant, so the remainder of this post goes out to anyone who is ...

So far so good. Launching as `wpa_gui` gives me an informational dialog, but a static strength meter. But when I try running in the search bar as `wpa_gui -m 10 -t`, I don't get expected results. The -m is "Set the update interval in seconds for the signal strength meter. This value must be a positive integer, otherwise meter is not enabled (default behavior)." With this setting I get no strength meter at all. Likewise -t "Start program in the system tray only (if the window manager supports it). By default the main status window is shown", does put it in the system tray but, like the -m option, it is invisible (though you can click on the invisible spot and show the dialog). Furthermore, no Adapter or network are set.

So, this only appears to work if run without options, but no active strength meter.

Has anyone used this and gotten it to take the parameters? Maybe I need to launch it a different way, perhaps from System Settings > Autostart? Please advise, almost there!

BTW - How I got here: This is a wireless only computer on which I've had NetworkManager running for several months, but every remote ssh connection was disconnected on an average of between 4 and 6 minutes (although there were stretches of connectivity for hours). I replaced 2 (for a total of 3) network cards to no effect. Finally, I got rid of NetworkManager and configured using inet1*/wpa_supplicant. An ssh session has been running now continuously connected for more than a week with NO disconnections. So, there is something wrong with NetworkManager! This thread is seeking an alternative to NM's gui interface.

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Since I wandered off original-topic, I'm going to close this out and post a question specifically about wpa_gui. My original question is answered.
 
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