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Old 10-09-2018, 12:19 AM   #16
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I won't replace Firefox in Slint anytime soon, just because it is usable by blind users through an Orca screen reader and I doubt that any of its derivatives has a big enough team to compete on the long run.

There's also Chromium with Chromevox, we will see if they get to interface it with at-spi as some devs seem to consider (which would allow to connect it to Orca), but this will take time and having a choice between two graphical web browsers is a good thing.

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Old 10-09-2018, 11:14 AM   #17
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just FYI another reason for the crash might be that you are using the depecrated (also by Nvidia) xinerama with your multimonitor setup.
Yes, I am definitely using xinerama. That was the only tool I found that let me use 4 monitors. It was a great tool, easy to use and set things up. Why is it deprecated and do you know of some other replacement, NVIDIA or otherwise?

Ranamon, I'll investigate your Firefox alternatives, but I sympathize with Didier Spaier's comments about the long term and team size. As to Cromium, that's by google and, according to what I've heard/read, Chrome (and -ium?) aggressively collect browsing data. I've favored Firefox's privacy policy in this regard, which is one of the reasons I use it and have convinced my office (pension fund administrator) to switch to it on PCs.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 11:23 AM   #18
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Yes, I am definitely using xinerama. That was the only tool I found that let me use 4 monitors. It was a great tool, easy to use and set things up. Why is it deprecated and do you know of some other replacement, NVIDIA or otherwise?
IMHO you actually should be using RandR (there's also a specific section in NVIDIA's Linux driver documentation).
 
Old 10-09-2018, 02:22 PM   #19
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..... As to Cromium, that's by google and, according to what I've heard/read, Chrome (and -ium?) aggressively collect browsing data. .....
Chromium being Open Source and its code readily available for scrutiny for almost a decade now I have a lot more faith it's NOT a data sink. That's in complete contrast to Chrome, Google's branded and proprietary browser.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 02:45 PM   #20
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I have just upgraded to mozilla-firefox-60.2.2esr-i686-1_slack14.2.txz following the recent slackware security notice and firefox will not start

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alan@Lavankossot:~$ firefox
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/lib64/firefox/libxul.so:
/usr/lib64/../lib64/libz.so.1: version `ZLIB_1.2.9' not found (required by /usr/lib64/firefox/libxul.so)
Couldn't load XPCOM.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:13 PM   #21
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I have just upgraded to mozilla-firefox-60.2.2esr-i686-1_slack14.2.txz following the recent slackware security notice and firefox will not start
could it be you haven't updated your zlib package with the one you can find in /patches/packages/?
if you are using slackpkg to update, please run
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slackpkg update
slackpkg upgrade-all
 
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:22 PM   #22
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I haven't.
I generally just upgrade in response to emails from the slackware security team. Was the zlib upgrade notified on that list?
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:26 PM   #23
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I haven't.
I generally just upgrade in response to emails from the slackware security team. Was the zlib upgrade notified on that list?
As far as I can see, the last update for zlib in 14.2 was July, and for -current in April. Looks like you may have missed it though, since what ponce is saying checks out here.

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Old 10-09-2018, 03:28 PM   #24
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Anyway I have upgraded and it works.

Thanks
 
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:31 PM   #25
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As to Cromium, that's by google and, according to what I've heard/read, Chrome (and -ium?) aggressively collect browsing data.
I'm curious about this too. Can Chromium be trusted?
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:32 PM   #26
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I have checked the security email list and I don't see anything about zlib on that.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:37 PM   #27
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I am puzzled as in a Slint64-14.2.1 system that I use for testing purposes with core libraries from Slackware64-14.2 I didn't upgrade zlib but still, Firefox 60.2.2esr works. However this is neither a Slackware package nor built from source, but a repackaging of an official binary (bundled with many language packs). Can this explain that?
 
Old 10-09-2018, 03:40 PM   #28
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I have checked the security email list and I don't see anything about zlib on that.
Because there was no security issue involved, but this update is indeed mentioned in the ChangeLog.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 04:19 PM   #29
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I have checked the security email list and I don't see anything about zlib on that.
The security list only shows updates to programs that were updated due to security exploits being fixed. The zlib update was a bugfix update, but it wasn't related to security, so there were no emails sent out for it.

Code:
patches/packages/zlib-1.2.11-x86_64-1_slack14.2.txz: Upgraded.
       This is a bugfix package update to fix decompression errors when zlib is
       used with recent versions of Node.js. Thanks to Ken Zalewski for the report.
It's good to get notified of security issues, but it is also a good idea to keep an eye on the changelog for any updates that weren't security related.

If you look at the changelog, entries that have (* Security fix *) will have email notifications, but all others won't send notifications and would rely on you manually checking and updating.
 
Old 10-09-2018, 06:23 PM   #30
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I think that if a security update has a dependency that requires updating it would be good to be notified about this. I have no interest in following the changelog.
 
  


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