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Old 07-10-2017, 02:44 AM   #1
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From Slackware to CentOS


Hi,

Since I've been getting a lot of emails recently, I thought it would be useful to publish a little statement.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/slackware-centos/

Cheers from the sunny South of France,

Niki
 
Old 07-10-2017, 03:46 AM   #2
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Best of luck, Nicolas, que les vents te soient favorables.

I hope we won't loose sight of you.

Bien amicalement,
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

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Old 07-10-2017, 03:58 AM   #3
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Best of luck, Nicolas, que les vents te soient favorables.

I hope we won't loose sight of you.

Bien amicalement,
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Thanks Didier! You know I'll always keep a soft spot for Slackware in my heart. Right now I'm wearing my Slackware t-shirt, aptly so, since I intend to do some slacklining this afternoon.

Niki
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:46 AM   #4
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Good luck! It would make sense to have a training course on CentOS since that is the going thing now.
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 04:52 AM   #5
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from your company point of view, this if for sure the right decision.
and I think this will also lower you personal stress and 'on the edge of burnout' level a lot.
Reskpekt, that it took you so long to make this step speaks for your fighter mentality, or, Sturschädel, or how do we say in Wien ;-)
And let me tell you, sitting self mostly on RHEL now since years, that there will be still time for Slackware, not that much, but when than with much more joy as when you need things from Slackware for your business.

Good luck with your company!
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 05:23 AM   #6
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from your company point of view, this if for sure the right decision.
and I think this will also lower you personal stress and 'on the edge of burnout' level a lot.
I try to improve my lurk/wife balance.
 
Old 07-10-2017, 06:42 AM   #7
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Best of luck. I'll see you over in RHEL land, I'm sure!
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 07:02 AM   #8
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Careful, before you know it MLED will be Windows! (I kid, and good luck to you.)
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 11:21 AM   #9
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Best to you. I am of the opinion that all computer operating systems suck. Just find the one that sucks the least for your needs and work flows.

At home I use Slackware. At work? Debian (Proxmox) and CentOS.

I am aware you have struggled with the lack of PAM and central authentication support. Anything else that is "missing"? A short list or links to discussions are fine.

One area I find CentOS lacking is "home user" support. The nux repo, which I see you are using, fills part of the home user void but not all. Are you going to build your own packages too?

I ask professionally because I find myself needing to live in both worlds.

Please PM me if you feel the topic is not suitable for this thread.
 
Old 07-10-2017, 02:06 PM   #10
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Hi,

Since I've been getting a lot of emails recently, I thought it would be useful to publish a little statement.

https://blog.microlinux.fr/slackware-centos/

Cheers from the sunny South of France,

Niki
Wow, time passed so fast... Hope to see you around Nikolas.

Bonne route a toi !

Bests.

Garry.
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 02:14 PM   #11
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À bientôt, Niki!
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:12 PM   #12
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Anything else that is "missing"? A short list or links to discussions are fine.

One area I find CentOS lacking is "home user" support. The nux repo, which I see you are using, fills part of the home user void but not all. Are you going to build your own packages too?

I ask professionally because I find myself needing to live in both worlds.
Slightly OT, then. So far, the CentOS repos (base, extras, EPEL, Nux, etc.) provide everything I need, both on servers and desktops. Setting up a public server now takes half a day, and not two days, though I really appreciate the learning experience I had with Slackware. Some automatic configurations come in handy, though I'm still aware of what's going on under the hood.

In short, CentOS is as boring as Slackware is. Which is essentially a good thing.

Niki
 
Old 07-10-2017, 03:34 PM   #13
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Aww... you fell victim to red hat and your company being convenient.

I usually have to work with centos in university environments. The main reason why they appear to use
centos (sometimes debian too though) is convenience for the main admin(s).

I personally use slackware more as a linux-from-scratch base, using a set of ruby
scripts to compile/install literally everything (but they are not really polished
enough to allow others to easily use them unfortunately ... )

> Setting up a public server now takes half a day, and not two days

And how is that specific to slackware?

I mean... you can't need much right? Some programming language... some webserver... that's about it right?

> though I'm still aware of what's going on under the hood.

Aha - so you have become a systemd expert in a day or two?

Amazing dude.

> CentOS is as boring as Slackware is

I don't think slackware was boring ever. Sure, it's not as "high paced" as other distributions. The high pace
often means that some upstream developer forces downstream slave developers to adjust to whatever is coming
at their way - and the origin of this is very often some paid red hat worker drone. It's a very disturbing
trend altogether - I very much favour oldschool Linux here. Then again having used linux since about 2003
I guess that is what comes semi-naturally when you have been using things for quite a long time.
 
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Old 07-10-2017, 03:50 PM   #14
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And how is that specific to slackware?

I mean... you can't need much right? Some programming language... some webserver... that's about it right?
Provisioning? Presets for installer?

Oh, and the SystemD is a bless for a server administrator, gift given by gods, considering the auto-restarting of failed services, simple and unified configuration and so on.

Not that has something common with Slackware, but that's the truth. Sorry for digression, and all of yours bear in mind that I do not refer to yours Slackware@Home, then please do not jump to bite me!

BTW, I wish you to configure a server with DNS, Web, jailed shell access and usual Mail services, antivirus support included, and of course to have a web frontend for your clients, before to talk about "some webserver"...

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Old 07-10-2017, 04:08 PM   #15
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> Setting up a public server now takes half a day, and not two days

And how is that specific to slackware?
Let me give you an example. The following operation takes roughly between three and four hours on Slackware. My documentation, went through the process roughly a dozen times, so I know.

https://github.com/kikinovak/pasture...ibox-HOWTO.txt

Same thing takes less than an hour with CentOS.

Which doesn't say anything about the quality of the distributions, only that it's better suited for my job.

And that's it.

Niki
 
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