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Old 06-11-2015, 10:58 PM   #1
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Fresh round of updates in changelog!


Seems more exciting to see changes lately!

Current and 64/14.1 - openssl, php and qt, mostly security/bug fixes.

Thu Jun 11 21:31:47 UTC 2015

Thanks Pat and team as always!

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Old 06-12-2015, 06:21 AM   #2
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It must be getting desperate when half a dozen security updates is celebrated by a thread in the forum. This dev cycle is just dragging on and on, and there's no sign of getting any closer to a release. I had a real sense of progress and more importantly involvement with 14.1 that I'm just not feeling this time.

Anyway, I don't want to become just a "negative ninny", so I'm going to bow out for a while.

I didn't want to go without saying thank you to all those who have given their time here to the benefit of us all, so, if astrogeek will forgive the thread hijack, to all those who are far to numerous to name; thank you!

Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 07:58 AM   #3
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Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
Slow progress is a reason to leave a distro and its community? I think there is enough worth doing and experiencing even if there is an obvious lull in development of the Slackware Linux distribution.
Is there anything you were expecting of Slackware in terms of features or capabilities that can no longer be satisfied by either Slackware 14.1 or -current?
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 09:51 AM   #4
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Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
Where is the flip side?
 
Old 06-12-2015, 10:09 AM   #5
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It must be getting desperate when half a dozen security updates is celebrated by a thread in the forum. This dev cycle is just dragging on and on, and there's no sign of getting any closer to a release. I had a real sense of progress and more importantly involvement with 14.1 that I'm just not feeling this time.
If PV & team did not provide information for dev cycle then people will complain. I prefer the way the Team does provide in-depth work on a wonderful Gnu/Linux that a user can rely on stability through detailed work. Patience on our part is necessary!
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Anyway, I don't want to become just a "negative ninny", so I'm going to bow out for a while.
Then why did you post this?
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I didn't want to go without saying thank you to all those who have given their time here to the benefit of us all, so, if astrogeek will forgive the thread hijack, to all those who are far to numerous to name; thank you!
Yes, you posted so there are some intent to the reason for posting.

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Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
Two headed coin now!

Gazl, you have been interactive with the Slackware forum so why do you intend to jump ship? Chum has been thrown out so the fish will be feeding on this post.

Sorry to hear this from a valued Slackware user!
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:29 AM   #6
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[Where is the flip side?
On my DVD it is 32-bit.
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It must be getting desperate when half a dozen security updates is celebrated by a thread in the forum
Perhaps not so trivial, as mancha has warned of potential ABI breakage with OpenSSL 1.0.1n http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5375674
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This dev cycle is just dragging on and on, and there's no sign of getting any closer to a release. I had a real sense of progress and more importantly involvement with 14.1 that I'm just not feeling this time.
I think this dev cycle has a peculiar set of circumstances. The rise of UEFI hardware as well as ARM architecture, the general adoption of systemd and the concomitant impact on udev and ConsoleKit, the move to an alternative to X11 and the ongoing divergence in the major desktop environments are some of the factors that seem to push to a wait and see attitude.
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Anyway, I don't want to become just a "negative ninny", so I'm going to bow out for a while.
I can understand LQ fatigue, but please do not conflate that with Slackware fatigue. What we most want from Slackware is stability and reliability, but it is only human nature to feel somehow cheated when that is approached.
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Take care guys. It's been fun.
Happy returns!
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:39 AM   #7
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Hi GazL.

I read your note with sadness - your departure will certainly degrade LQ-Slackware's signal-to-noise ratio.

That said, I can understand why feeling less involved prompts your move to other pastures; A good reminder to us all that
inclusive processes are important ingredients for a healthy community...

Best wishes and I hope our paths cross again.

--mancha
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 10:47 AM   #8
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Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
I will miss your comments, Gazl. I will no doubt bump into you in the BSD forums. Perhaps a break is in order rather than an outright departure? I hope to see you here soon.
Take it easy, man.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 10:53 AM   #9
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It must be getting desperate when half a dozen security updates is celebrated by a thread in the forum. This dev cycle is just dragging on and on, and there's no sign of getting any closer to a release. I had a real sense of progress and more importantly involvement with 14.1 that I'm just not feeling this time.
Here's what you can do to get a new perspective on things.
  1. Install Arch or Gentoo.
  2. Leave your system unattended for a month or two.
  3. Run 'pacman -Syu' or 'emerge --update --newuse --deep @world'.

Cheers,

Niki
 
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Old 06-12-2015, 11:37 AM   #10
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The lull isn't making me want to leave Slackware. There's nothing I want to switch to. It is making me wonder if I should try -current though.

((I noticed last night that Dolphin the emulator would no longer build on 14.1).

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Old 06-12-2015, 11:49 AM   #11
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It is making me wonder if I should try -current though.
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Linux odin 3.18.11 #2 SMP Tue Apr 7 13:09:53 CDT 2015 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
Slackware64-current is fantastic. Stable, secure. I'm really enjoying XFCE 4.12.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 11:51 AM   #12
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Just because the official packages get slow coming in, doesn't warrant leaving. Besides plenty of us have experimental stuff always getting pushed out. Grab some experimental packages and live dangerously. Besides, the progress you help advance and problems you help solve could get pushed into SBo and even Slackware.

I'm busy researching, on my own mind you, X11 for including wayland inside xorg-server related stuff and getting it ready for KDE/Plasma5. I've already added Xwayland on my machine too, to which I may grab some of AlienBOB's KDE/Plasma5 stuff and mess around with rebuilding it for Wayland compositing support. Will it get used? Maybe, maybe not, but who cares? The work's been done.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 12:28 PM   #13
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I think this dev cycle has a peculiar set of circumstances. The rise of UEFI hardware as well as ARM architecture, the general adoption of systemd and the concomitant impact on udev and ConsoleKit, the move to an alternative to X11 and the ongoing divergence in the major desktop environments are some of the factors that seem to push to a wait and see attitude.
Just what I was thinking.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 12:44 PM   #14
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There's been considerable upheaval in Linux land the last eighteen months, particularly with regard to init system choice and the related dependencies.

I'm not sure what the hurry is.
 
Old 06-12-2015, 01:18 PM   #15
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Anyway, I don't want to become just a "negative ninny", so I'm going to bow out for a while.

I didn't want to go without saying thank you to all those who have given their time here to the benefit of us all, so, if astrogeek will forgive the thread hijack, to all those who are far to numerous to name; thank you!

Take care guys. It's been fun. Perhaps, I'll see you all on the flip side.
I hope that my late night distraction thread alone, did not prompt these thoughts of parting!

Perhaps it is just a time of change sensed by us all in different ways that is unsettling. I am in the midst of some computing related upheaval in my own sphere, although Slackware's relative quiescence has been a welcome stability in my case.

As mancha said, your signal contribution has been appreciated and will be missed when absent. I look forward to extending a return welcome when it comes, as seems inevitable with Slackware!

Clear sailing Gazl!

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