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Old 01-14-2014, 06:17 PM   #1
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flashplayer plugin 'an error occurred'


hello

i am new to trying slackware (14.1) and i have it loaded on an asus1225b netbook.

i have ensured that firefox is up to date (in fact using slackpkg i've updated all it suggested).

no matter what i've tried version wise of the plugin (from slackbuild, alien or adobe) the player loads in firefox, tries to play but blanks immediately with a message on the player window of 'an error occurred, please try again later'....never any sound either).

rather frustrating.

ive tried suggestions on threads listed on here, no joy.


as i say i am new to slack, so i could do with some help on what else to check and where to look.

(other distros ive tried on this machine have been fine...pretty much on everything...slack is a lot more work!!! :-) ..


thank you for any help.

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Old 01-14-2014, 06:53 PM   #2
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Curiouser and curiouser.......
This just happened to me today. It worked fine for as long as I've used Slackware (since v7) until around 12 Noon EST today. Suddenly nothing loads right. It begins and then fails. Going to the "Read More" link I tried each possible fix, close tabs, try another browser, insure latest flash, etc, still no love.

I have Suse and Studio Ubuntu on this box so I'll try them later tonight. I sincerely hope this is not Adobe mess. If it is a Slackware problem I'm confident that it will be fixed. If it is Adobe..... pfffff... I have noticed they no longer even show the 32 bit version for Linux. Even though the menuitem still exists, all "Next" go to 64 bit.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 07:56 PM   #3
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I just tried watching a video on youtube and it seemed to work just fine. What version of flash are you using?
 
Old 01-14-2014, 09:12 PM   #4
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I see the same thing on my HP 635 running Slackware64 14.1. That machine has AMD Dual-Core E-300 APU with Radeon™ HD 6310 Graphics (1.3 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache) for a processor.

Some videos on YouTube play fine. The advertisements that are sometimes played prior to an embedded video play just fine 99% of the time.

I've used both the free and the ATI proprietary drivers with no difference in this behavior.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 09:31 PM   #5
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I don't know about OP but I'm using the recommended 11.02.22 (unsure right now of last 2 digits) just recall trying to get the very latest 11.02.32 or something like that and being bumped to the same 64 bit download... no choice. As I said I have used the same system pretty much as is for months and I am on YouTube a LOT!! It has worked wonderfully. Then hitting the replay button stopped working or going thru forward or back browser buttons weren't enough to replay and I had to hit browser reload for a few hours. Then Bam! noithing works for longer than a few jittery seconds and the "Sorry. An error has occurred. Learn More" message pops up.

Even more oddly... checked just now. Working. Bad voodoo. I don't like it when things change for no apparent reason. Perhaps the thing I love about Slack the most is I always (or until recently) know when a problem occurs how to fix it because I caused it moments before. If this is a trend I fervently hope I'm experiencing some nasty hardware failure. Better that, than lose my confidence in Slackware.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 09:53 PM   #6
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Loosing the confidence into Slackware because of the malfunctioning of a third party browser plugin sounds somewhat weird.

Anyways, the latest version of Flash for Firefox is 11.2.202.335. I wonder where you get your version numbers from, are you sure you have the latest version installed? I currently run 11.2.202.332 from AlienBob on Firefox 24.2.0esr and it works without a problem.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 09:54 PM   #7
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wild i have never had one problem with the flash player plugin with nvidia and the xorg.
But I can say many of my friends with intel and xorg have suffered.
that may be a direction to look.

Full install of slackware 14.1 or any of the others had no problems. My friends with intel video chips have had problems through the years. this may be something. I know adobe has a real good trouble shoot. I used it when slackware went multi arch and was working to get the 32 bit to work.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 10:02 PM   #8
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I have an intel graphics card, slack current, flash 327, and have not had any problems. Also have chromium with pepper flash from alienbob's repository a that works without a problem as well.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 10:04 PM   #9
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wild i have never had one problem with the flash player plugin with nvidia and the xorg.
But I can say many of my friends with intel and xorg have suffered.
that may be a direction to look.

Full install of slackware 14.1 or any of the others had no problems. My friends with intel video chips have had problems through the years. this may be something. I know adobe has a real good trouble shoot. I used it when slackware went multi arch and was working to get the 32 bit to work.
Although I expressed some paranoid concern over the direction Linux in general, and though more slowly, even Slackware seems headed, in all fairness as I said I explored every possible suggestion on the "Learn More" linked page. Prior to it all going bad, I was not doing anything but listening to music and playing Freecell with a cup of coffee. I really wasn't even ready to do any serious work, so I had made zero changes when the problem began. Everything I tried that involved some system change, I ended up returning to my previous state. So I am convinced that the problem was external to my box.

I can't know if it had to do with ISP or a few hours of YouTube or Adobe maintenance or what, but I really can't see how it could have been local.

PS Incidentally I'm rockin' an nVidia GTX 760 and it doesn't consider 480p (what many or most YouTube videos are at) even a light snack. It barely breaks a sweat on 1080p.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 10:08 PM   #10
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Although I expressed some paranoid concern over the direction Linux in general, and though more slowly, even Slackware seems headed, in all fairness as I said I explored every possible suggestion on the "Learn More" linked page. Prior to it all going bad, I was not doing anything but listening to music and playing Freecell with a cup of coffee. I really wasn't even ready to do any serious work, so I had made zero changes when the problem began. Everything I tried that involved some system change, I ended up returning to my previous state. So I am convinced that the problem was external to my box.

I can't know if it had to do with ISP or a few hours of YouTube or Adobe maintenance or what, but I really can't see how it could have been local.

PS Incidentally I'm rockin' an nVidia GTX 760 and it doesn't consider 480p (what many or most YouTube videos are at) even a light snack. It barely breaks a sweat on 1080p.
Could there be an update for your graphics card? My tower has a 6150se card and that can get quirky at times.
 
Old 01-14-2014, 11:48 PM   #11
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Could there be an update for your graphics card? My tower has a 6150se card and that can get quirky at times.
As I said I made no changes to my system for many hours prior to the trouble and while I've only had this video card a few weeks, I spend a LOT of time on this PC (work and play) it positively crushes anything I throw at it and has never given me one nanosecond of grief.

Being that new, and this being Slackware with a for real runlevel 3 and kernel source, naturally I downloaded the recommended newest driver and installed it without a hitch, as usual. I've been installing nVidia drivers on alternative operating systems for over 12 years, so while I am certainly capable of making a mistake, that didn't happen. It went smoothly every step of the way and has stayed that way. I get over 100 FPS on Unigine Heaven 4 with all quality parameters maxed, and it barely rises 15C, thanks to the stock triple fans and massive heat sink.

On the flip side, my system was back to the exact condition it was when it just started working. The only thing I've experienced at all wonky is the boot manager built in to the UEFI Bios. It's possible, but the odds seem very slim the problem was local, and if so, not the video card or it's driver.

I've read a few threads that mention the 6150 as "quirky" so I looked it up. Not only was there a class action suit for excessive failure rates of the 61xx series that cost nVidia roughly $200,000,000.00 US., but also

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GeForce 6150SE (MCP61, also known as C61) is an updated, single-chip version of the Nvidia GeForce 6100. The MCP61 uses less power than the original C51 2-chip version of 6100. Its onboard video outperforms the 6150 in many 3D benchmarks despite its lower core frequency (425 MHz), because of added hardware Z-culling.

MCP61 introduced a bug in the SATA NCQ implementation. As a result, Nvidia employees have contributed code to disable NCQ operations under Linux.[10]
I only mention this because several years ago I had a GeForce 6600 LE that was so far from reference design it, too was "quirky". I also had an Elsa Synergy that was far from reference that was quirky. This is often done in the competition for the low and low-middle end.

I learned my lesson - no matter how much cheaper, or how many bells and whistles for the bucks, it is far more economical to get a solid brand name that stays fairly close to reference and is not built "down to a price point". Considering the relative importance of the visual side of computing, it's not a good place to cut corners. FWIW this is a Gigabyte that cost more than entire high performance motherboards and that seems a proper hierarchy to me. I'd be shocked if it was at fault.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:36 AM   #12
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I just glimpsed through these post and have to say that I've desperately been looking to find ways around flashplayer and youtube. Flashplayer recently was crashing firefox so bad and affecting my mplayer, just un-installed it. I use whatever other plug-ins I found. I watch lots of video tuts & so I reinstalled flashplayer and its slowed firefox really bad. I built midori & it crashed. I removed flash again and reinstalled it. Now its working a little better but I'm certain it has todo with the combination of poor HD quality videos proliferated by added youtube code for adds, google tracking & sharing, garbage flash code trying to keep up. Call me stupid but there are too many people having trouble with youtube & flash.
I'm just going to download VLC and use the link from videos to watch them if they are worth watching like I did in windows.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 02:39 AM   #13
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Do other plugins work? If yes, you could also look into pipelight. Alien BOB packaged it: http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/pipe...linux-browsers
After installation, use `pipelight-plugin --enable flash'. pipelight plugins will then be downloaded once you start your browser.

edit: if you don't have sound either, could it be that you are not member of the audio group? Flash player will immediately stop if you aren't, at least in my case. Use the `groups' (as user) command to list groups your user is in, `usermod -aG audio user' (as root) to add `user' to the audio group.

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Old 01-15-2014, 02:48 AM   #14
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Seems to me YouTube used to support HTML5. Don't know what happened to that. Was supposed to compete with Flash among other things.
 
Old 01-15-2014, 05:02 AM   #15
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Thanks for the contributions to my OP.

If on the same machine, it 'just works' with other distros then it makes me wonder what the others 'have' that's not in place with slack.

e.g. Mageia 3 on the same machine works spot on - no lag, no stutter, sound etc

Well, looking at that, I suspect there is a proprietary ATI driver for the Radeon HD 6290 in the Mageia 3 install (i thought i saw it during install using a ATI driver- but will check).

So it would appear that one issue could be that the flashplayer plugin (from slackbuild, alien or adobe) requires something that the non-proprietary driver in slack has. (sorry for the basic way of talking - im quite new at this ). Or more succinctly, the problem lies with the graphics chip, the driver and the plugin ? does that seem likely and are there any suggestions on best way of testing/finding out the problem ?

I do not think it is a Slack problem as such, unless it is something fundamental in relation to supporting this asus1225b, Brazos APU HD radeon 6290, but the other distros have been fine Suse, Mageia... i might try Vector!

As an aside and Im probably speaking unfairly, but i consider these types of oerations as 'basics' and i expect them to 'just work' these days...given the times we are in...its not as if its new issue and i know i have to rely on better gifted people than i to make sure thes basic things are sorted for me (just as we do in other areas of life).

i agree, that the flashplayer plugin issue needs a good reliable alternative fairly soon to remove the depedence on the flaky (closed source, monopolistic, 'you all work around my proprietary ways') adobe offerings :-) i was also hoping the HTML5 video would take over rapidly, but the vast amount of videos out there would mean it will take time.

Appreciate any other ideas that anyone can offer. Thank you

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