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Old 07-19-2014, 03:06 AM   #1
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First thing to do?


I have finally manage to install slackware on my uefi system and installed the nvidia drivers and all is working just fine.

Is there anything else I should fix before starting the hunt for all the programs that I need?
Any special tweaks that is recommended to do?

I have not used slack since 8.1 and i would like some help about the package manager that I understand is quite new to the system, can it be used like Debian Pacman to install things or how does it work?

I remember in the old days I used a program called check or something like that, that program was use to type checkinstall instead of just install when you installed thing so you could remove them later if you want. Almost like an Uninstaller.
Is that needed today?

As you can see its been a long time since I used any Linux dist so please help me out here
 
Old 07-19-2014, 03:19 AM   #2
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You might find answers here, if not - come back:
http://docs.slackware.com/toc:start
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:11 AM   #3
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Thank you, that sure helped a lot.
I do have a question about installing package.

According to this
http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php

I just have to write installpkg and then the file name of the tar file and it will be installed.

So I no longer need to compile the programs like I used to?
Don't know if I remember the commands but I think it was something like this.
Configure
Make
Make install

Maby both ways still work but the "old" way will not end up in the fancy pkgtool?
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:23 AM   #4
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I quote from there
Quote:
By typing installpkg [packagename].tgz you can install packages on your system.
you can use installpkg with Slackware's packages, that are just tar archives (xz or gz compressed) that contain stuff built using a SlackBuild script (you will find information about what is a SlackBuild script on docs.slackware.com). Using a SlackBuild script to create a package to install is the recommended way for stuff not included in a Slackware full installation or not already packaged, so you can keep track of the files on your system (something essential that you cannot do if you install thingies with "configure ; make ; make install").
a tar archive containing the sources of an application/library cannot be installed directly using installpkg, as it operates, like it's written there, on packages.

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Old 07-19-2014, 10:38 AM   #5
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The program src2pkg can be used to help create packages from source tar files, which you would then install using the slackware package manager.

You might want to look at SlackBuilds and sbopkg for other ways to get software.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:40 AM   #6
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According to this
http://www.slackware.com/config/packages.php

I just have to write installpkg and then the file name of the tar file and it will be installed.

So I no longer need to compile the programs like I used to?
I think you should read this:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...es-4175507810/
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:43 AM   #7
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Thank you a lot for explaining that to me, the understanding of the English language can confuse me a bit when it gets to technical.

One thing I have not found on the slackware wiki is how to build my own package. I guess it's quite rare to build your own package from the source code but if some one have a link that explains it or have the time to tell me I would be most grateful.

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:49 AM   #8
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The links that I provided are all about building from source.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:50 AM   #9
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sorry, what do you mean with "how to build my own package"? can you make an example of a software you want to build?
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:52 AM   #10
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The links that I provided are all about building from source.
Was typing my own answer when you posted so I missed it but I am reading it just now thank you very much.
 
Old 07-19-2014, 10:52 AM   #11
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If the slackware package for the software you want does not exist, you should make one, using a slackbuild script.
The best collection of slackbuild scripts out there is here: http://slackbuilds.org/
If you can't find what you want there, I suggest you make your own slackbuild

:edit
ah, too slow. ponce and Richard Cranium already said this

Last edited by Slax-Dude; 07-19-2014 at 10:57 AM. Reason: too slow posting
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:00 AM   #12
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Wow that explains it.

I would like to thank you all for the great help and the patience you guys have showed a newb like me
 
Old 07-19-2014, 11:14 AM   #13
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Let's try to make this really, really simple. If you're a Slackware beginner, please use these Beginners' Rules.

(Rule 0) Always start with a full installation of Slackware; it is much easier than installing more packages later.

(Rule 1) A Slackware package is a tarball, but most tarballs are not Slackware packages. A Slackware package is a *special* kind of tarball. Slackware packages always have names that end with .tgz or .txz.

(Rule 2) A source tarball is not a Slackware package. Most source tarballs have names that end with .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 or .tar.xz. Some source tarballs have names that end with .tgz, but they are still not Slackware packages.

(Rule 3) Only Slackware packages will work with installpkg / upgradepkg / removepkg.

(Rule 4) Slackware packages come from Slackware mirrors, or from trusted package sites like Alien Bob, slacky.eu, and Slackware community sites that people here on LinuxQuestions can recommend. Do not trust Slackware packages from other sites; if in doubt, ask here on LinuxQuestions.

(Rule 5) You can make your own Slackware packages from source tarballs, using SlackBuilds.org and sbopkg.

(Rule 6) Always install from Slackware packages. Never install stuff any other way, unless you know how to get rid of it.

I know that experienced users will be able to think of exceptions and additions to these rules, but this is an attempt to make it as simple as possible.

Last edited by 55020; 07-19-2014 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Good advice from mattallmill :D
 
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:34 PM   #14
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Let's try to make this really, really simple. If you're a Slackware beginner, please use these Beginners' Rules.

(Rule 1) A Slackware package is a tarball, but most tarballs are not Slackware packages. A Slackware package is a *special* kind of tarball. Slackware packages always have names that end with .tgz or .txz.

(Rule 2) A source tarball is not a Slackware package. Most source tarballs have names that end with .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 or .tar.xz. Some source tarballs have names that end with .tgz, but they are still not Slackware packages.

(Rule 3) Only Slackware packages will work with installpkg / upgradepkg / removepkg.

(Rule 4) Slackware packages come from Slackware mirrors, or from Alien Bob, or from slacky.eu, or other Slackware community sites that people here at LQ can recommend. If you get something from somewhere else, it almost certainly is not a Slackware package.

(Rule 5) You can make your own Slackware packages from source tarballs, using SlackBuilds.org and sbopkg.

(Rule 6) Always install from Slackware packages. Never install stuff any other way, unless you know how to get rid of it.

I know that experienced users will be able to think of exceptions and additions to these rules, but this is an attempt to make it as simple as possible.
You ought to revise (Rule 4) to say something along the lines of "Always use trusted sources, such as Alien BOB, or community sites that are recommended by an LQ member."

I would not say that if they got it anywhere else, that it is not a Slackware package; it very well may be a valid package, but for simplicity's sake, people new to Slackware would be wise to stick to recommended sites.

Otherwise, an excellent post!
 
Old 07-19-2014, 04:34 PM   #15
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Have not found gkrellm and irssi so far
 
  


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