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pete_bogg 05-18-2007 03:43 PM

Firefox freezes and X crashes
 
HELP!!!

I am having a lot of freezes with Firefox and sometimes, X crashes and I end up back at the login screen.

I used to use Slackware 10.0 and it was very stable. I moved to Zenwalk 2.8, then 3.0, then 4.0, and then 4.4. Through all of the Zenwalk versions, I had the same problem. I came back to Slackware 11.0 with the XFS.s kernel and I am still seeing the same crashes.

In an attempt to troubleshoot, I ran memtest86+ for 7 hours without a problem. My linux harddrive checked out OK. I haven't installed the ATI 3D driver yet, so the X driver for ATI that came with Slackware 11.0 should be OK. I believe that the XFS.s kernel is a 2.4 series and most of the Zenwalk kernels have been the 2.6 series, so the kernel must not be the problem.

I cannot find any logs that would tell me why Firefox is freezing and why X crashes.

In a nutshell, I'm lost as to how to make my system more stable.

Can someone point me in a direction to 'fix' my system?

adriv 05-18-2007 04:11 PM

Do you also experience this behavior with a clean install and a new profile of Firefox (so without extensions/themes/flash player(!)/whatever)?

Nem 05-18-2007 04:13 PM

Hmm...
Thats weird. Are you running out of memory ?
Try running command top and see whats going on.
So is X crashing when you start firefox and firefox is
freezing? I mean does X crash without starting firefox?
I have a ati radeon 9200 and didn't have a problems with the X crashing.I use the ati driver from
ati and it works fine so maybe you should try it.
Oh and if you're going to try the driver from ati
read this before installing.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=402003

Oh and I use the opera browser and it seems to be much lighter than firefox.Firefox is getting bloated for me.

adriv 05-18-2007 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nem
Oh and I use the opera browser and it seems to be much lighter than firefox.Firefox is getting bloated for me.

A "standard" Opera is more bloated than a "standard" Firefox, IMHO.
Opera is a great browser, but (a lot) less tweakable.
And FF renders better (but that's a matter of taste). ;)

I prefer Konqueror over Opera (a lot faster).

H_TeXMeX_H 05-18-2007 06:22 PM

Can you get any logs on why X crashes. Check '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'. FF usually crashes because of bad extensions or plug-ins. FF without any extensions or plug-ins is very stable and not at all bloated ... of course, less functional ... but hey, you gotta pick one. Best thing to do is install as few plug-ins and extensions as possible, and only ones that are known to be stable. What plug-ins and extensions do you have installed ?

Nem 05-18-2007 11:41 PM

adriv,
I don't know what to really say about
which browser uses less memory, but opera for
me starts within 1 sec and firefox 2.0 within
a couple seconds and I didn't add any extensions.
Plus another reason is that lately I couldn't find
any good firefox themes.I can't find good dark themes.They're all looking kind of bloated and
bad icon themes.But opera has so many good
sleek and sexy themes.

But hey,
If you know of good dark firefox themes
pass me the link!

H_TeXMeX_H 05-19-2007 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nem
But hey,
If you know of good dark firefox themes
pass me the link!

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir.../previews/4521
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3248
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2118
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3158
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1529

I wouldn't know how many actually work ... I use the standard, grey theme ... really minimal ... but usable, fast, visible, etc.

For example: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3...eenshotys3.png

adriv 05-19-2007 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nem
adriv,
I don't know what to really say about
which browser uses less memory, but opera for
me starts within 1 sec and firefox 2.0 within
a couple seconds and I didn't add any extensions.
Plus another reason is that lately I couldn't find
any good firefox themes.I can't find good dark themes.They're all looking kind of bloated and
bad icon themes.But opera has so many good
sleek and sexy themes.

But hey,
If you know of good dark firefox themes
pass me the link!

Well, H_TeXMeX_H gave a couple of examples, but it'a all a matter of taste off course.
I don't use any FF-themes, but I have a theme in KDE that's moderated to my taste, so all apps have the same look. Screenshot.
There is a -dark- theme that I like a lot, but my wife doesn't, so we don't use that anymore. It's called RedHat Artwork.

Nem 05-19-2007 12:19 PM

Okey I took some screenshots of a dark firefox theme and dark
opera theme.

firefox
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5...eenshotpo5.png

Opera
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?i...yenshotjp4.png

I don't know but to me the opera theme looks much slimmer and
sleek than firefox.


On the side yesterday I was changing the look of fluxbox...
Here's some screenies.

http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?i...enshot2xx0.png

Here's my aterm I modified it a little, now it looks much nicer.
Oh and I found this kick-ass theme for audacious

http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?im...eenshotbk4.png

I don't know what happened but I got firefox to use my
gtk theme! So now don't know which browser to use! I'll
just use both till I find which one I like.

firefox
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?i...eenshotnr6.png

H_TeXMeX_H 05-19-2007 12:25 PM

I actually like the look of the firefox one much better than the opera one you posted ... matter of taste, as usual.


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