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Old 08-28-2018, 11:56 AM   #1
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Firefox 52 ESR end-of-life


There are only a few days left until Firefox 52 ESR reaches its end-of-life on Sep 5th. With no signs of an update for Slackware 14.2 I've built Firefox 60 ESR on 14.2 with the scripts from Slackware-current, i.e. install libedit, upgrade llvm, build rust, build mozilla-firefox.

However, I've been unable to build a localized version. The required list of changesets for the l10n files are now part of the Firefox source package and I've edited the build script accordingly. Nevertheless, settings MOZ_LOCALIZE and running the build script fails at the end (after about one hour on my modest system, making debugging time consuming).

Does anybody have a .diff for mozilla-firefox.SlackBuild from slackware64-current to get a working localized build?

Will Slackware 14.2 get an official update to the current Firefox 60 ESR on time?
 
Old 08-28-2018, 12:11 PM   #2
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BTW, the RUST package from slackware-current does not need the LLVM package (either updated or not), because it use an internal copy of LLVM.

Also, upgrading the LLVM package in Slackware 14.2 is a risky endeavor, because it is used by Mesa3D.

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Old 08-28-2018, 12:30 PM   #3
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Will Slackware 14.2 get an official update to the current Firefox 60 ESR on time?
End-of-life is such a misnomer. End-of-support-life is more technically correct.

PSA: Yesterday I inadvertently tested 60 ESR. A lot of things broke because the user profile is different from the new Quantum version. An upsetting 15 minutes or so. Anyway, if Pat decides to move to 60 ESR might be nice if the change log warned users of breakage.

I restored the 52 ESR version and need to dig deeper into this. Likely I will remain on 52 ESR for a while as I configure a rather rigid browser environment to thwart popular attacks. Hardly foolproof but sufficient not to panic.

I had hoped several popular add-ons might be ready by the time this day arrived, such as Tab Mix Plus. That hasn't happened. Free/libre software -- home of rapid release and the land of broken user experiences.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 02:06 PM   #4
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This is scary stuff and I'm getting a little aggravated myself because of these latest developments at Mozilla.
I'm still on Firefox 52 ESR and using a few very useful privacy&security related add-ons that I know are not going to work on 60. Not sure what long term alternative to Firefox I might be able to find if the folks at Mozilla are continuing to "morph" Firefox into Chrome(like).
I had a bad experience with Thunderbird the other day on a Redmond system, mistakenly upgraded to 60 and struggled for half an hour to revert it back to 52.
I might consider using lynx from now on ...

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Old 08-28-2018, 03:51 PM   #5
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I'm still running SeaMonkey, based off Firefox 52.9 ESR, it is functioning without flaws. SeaMonkey is a standard install on Slackware 14.2, unless for some reason you removed it. Additionally I don't see any security issues to move on from it.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:00 PM   #6
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Well, if you haven't looked at Pale Moon 28, it might be worth your time considering.......

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.....We are now building on the Unified XUL Platform which has been forked off from Mozilla's mozilla-central at a point before Rust and Quantum to continue focus on the XUL interface language and traditional browser extensions. Many thousands of things have changed since the v27 (AKA "Tycho") versions, which can't possibly all be listed here. Instead, the most pertinent improvements in this new release are highlighted here:......
The full page is at, https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:28 PM   #7
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I use the Google Chrome slackbuild script offered by Pat in /extra. Chrome 68.0 runs well.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:38 PM   #8
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I second the emotion on Palemoon. It's more basic with an accompanying (and appreciated) small footprint and does the basics well... coming along very nicely in 28. The only issue I've experienced so far is that while Discord logs in OK it won't switch to a channel after I've logged into a valid server. I have no idea what's missing or configured improperly but it is a small price to pay for compatibility with older addons and the devs seem devoted to making it a simple, solid browser.
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 04:52 PM   #9
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@bamunds & @cwizardone - many thanks for the suggestions! Will have a look at both SeaMonkey and PaleMoon and hope that they'll continue using and developing the code before Quantum. PaleMoon looks like doing that long term.

@hitest
I'd consider the open source Chromium, but knowing that it comes from Google, a company that has advertising (and spying/profiling for that matter) as its business core, I do have reservations. Actually I always try to stay away from any Google code, investing a lot of time&effort to secure my Android devices (cut the links to google.com & associates) and I don't have the capacity to audit the entire source code.
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/com..._privacy_wise/
 
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Old 08-28-2018, 08:05 PM   #10
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vimperator will not be supported anymore for Firefox versions after v.56 so I will stick to the 52 ESR version for now.

https://github.com/vimperator/vimper...d-alternatives
 
Old 08-28-2018, 08:34 PM   #11
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vimperator will not be supported anymore for Firefox versions after v.56 so I will stick to the 52 ESR version for now.

https://github.com/vimperator/vimper...d-alternatives
I use Tridactyl on the latest Firefox. It's okay but definitely not as good as Vimperator.
 
Old 08-28-2018, 08:53 PM   #12
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@hitest
I'd consider the open source Chromium, but knowing that it comes from Google, a company that has advertising (and spying/profiling for that matter) as its business core, I do have reservations.
I understand. I am a little more comfortable with my Google Overlords. I also use FF 60 a lot.
 
Old 08-28-2018, 09:13 PM   #13
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I'm still running SeaMonkey
I used to use Seamonkey and would happily use it again, but I stopped because the Seamonkey sync does not seem to function and I rotate among three computers on a daily basis, so I find sync quite useful.

If Seamonkey sync has started working, I'd happily go back to Seamonkey.
 
Old 08-28-2018, 09:39 PM   #14
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Sorry I can't report on sync working or not with SeaMonkey. I just never found a reason to use it.
 
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I understand. I am a little more comfortable with my Google Overlords. I also use FF 60 a lot.
Leaving apart the privacy concerns, there are other "discomforts" that I consider negatively impacting my work. Tracking me and my habits and then providing me with tailored results/adverts is something that influences my exploration, (re)search, ideas and focus. I know they all say "it's for your own good", but who has time to believe them. Then the lack of tools (add-ons) to block all the advertisements is also an inconvenience. These adverts, if unblocked, are affecting my efficiency (eating time) and again distracting me. I survived until now with the help of some (a dozen) add-ons in FF(up to 52 ESR) and I'm looking for a way to continue benefiting from such effective filters in the future, without turning back to the good 'ol text based lynx. Now turning to Google for a solution is not an option for me, sorry.

And, it's not all about Google, although they're the biggest, it's also about your other "friends" that take care of you:
https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws....-2017-half.jpg
 
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