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cynwulf 09-14-2013 04:22 PM

The desktop PC is not declining or becoming obsolete... that is utter bollocks, it's the marketing people for the new wave of kewl touch screen toys who quite obviously want to spread this FUD...

Cast your mind back to the 90's when there were people using mostly desktops and laptops - most of these were not even on the net until the latter part of that decade. Back then, there were nowhere near as many people online anyway - the "internet revolution" really took off and started to snowball in the early 00's.

Tablets and phones have not stolen the desktop market, they have simply brought more people onto the web and made the desktop/laptop market look smaller by comparison. Gamers are still there, people using productivity software are still there and GNU/Linux users, mainly using desktops have grown enormously since the 90's.

Slack does not need to support tablets or mobile devices, that's not what Slack is about. It's up to individuals or derivative distros to support that kind of thing.

In view of this, this thread just seems like an ill founded attention seeking rant.

AlleyTrotter 09-14-2013 04:29 PM

Does anyone still have a CB-Radio in their car?

Sometimes you guys are way too serious.

Remember it's about having fun.

k3lt01 09-14-2013 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 5027731)
Does anyone still have a CB-Radio in their car?

Yes, it's a Uniden.

YellowApple 09-15-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 5027731)
Does anyone still have a CB-Radio in their car?

Sometimes you guys are way too serious.

Remember it's about having fun.

I don't have a car :(

I do have a CB radio, though; who *doesn't* find it fun to listen to all the truckers chatting as they barrel down the town's only significant highway? :)

Skaperen 09-15-2013 04:49 PM

I have 2m and 70cm in my car.

volkerdi 09-15-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 5027731)
Does anyone still have a CB-Radio in their car?

I have a friend who does. He lives in the forest in northern California, and uses logging roads all the time. If you don't listen to the channel used by the logging trucks and continually call out your own position ("about to crest $PASS coming from the west side") you'll soon end up as a decoration on the front of a Mack truck.

Skaperen 09-15-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottavio (Post 5026663)
I would like to use this thread to thank those who helped me in these 6 years as a poster on LQ. I joined LQ only because of Slackware. I never believed in the forum format but the alternative at that time was alt.os.linux.slackware which was infested by trolls.

I don't see any point in following Slackware any more because of the stubbornness of the Slackware crowd in thinking that smartphones and tablets are not proper computers and to be honest also because my recent posts were ignored.

Thank you for what I've learnt here but it's time for me to move on.

Ottavio

So if you don't like the forum format, what format do you like, to communicate with the community related to whatever it is you do or will have an interest in after your Slackware phase?

I can tell you in advance that I don't like the email format because it interferes with important email, and have become to dislike the Usenet format due to the massive amounts of spam and scams. The forum format by well run forums like LQ (yeah there are others that are well run, too, for many topics) solve the problems. None are perfect, but mostly that will require recoding. StackExchange has some interesting technical features, but it's too pedantic to take over (a non-technical issue).

Richard Cranium 09-15-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimkid (Post 5026778)
fascist

Words have meanings and the meaning of "fascist" (which, BTW, isn't "shite that I don't like") is not applicable here.

Geist 09-15-2013 10:02 PM

Hah...tablets being the future even for work?!
The day I trade muh cherry switch driven mechanical keyboards that sex up my fingers for tapping on glass panes is the day the mold in my apartment finally overwhelmed by brain.
Innovation isn't always innovative.

The wheel was innovative.
AIDS was innovative.
Minimaps in text editors are innovative.

None of these were positive.
Especially the minimaps.
Why? Every editor that comes with one usually has the option to go to code landmarks directly, or generate outlines directly, etc, whereas minimaps are illegible proxies that require clicks and code memorization to be of any use at all.

Tablet `computers'? As in actual workstations? Not even once.
Smartphones? Those are ok.

But that's just me.

dugan 09-16-2013 12:48 AM

4 days before posting this thread, he posted this one:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ase-4175476408

Well, if he wants something that Slackware isn't giving him, and he accepts that Slackware cannot give it to him, then no hard feelings.

k3lt01 09-16-2013 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dugan (Post 5028277)
4 days before posting this thread, he posted this one:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ase-4175476408

Well, if he wants something that Slackware isn't giving him, and he accepts that Slackware cannot give it to him, then no hard feelings.

Super sleuth?

hitest 09-16-2013 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dugan (Post 5028277)
Well, if he wants something that Slackware isn't giving him, and he accepts that Slackware cannot give it to him, then no hard feelings.

Yes. Live and let live. Each to his own.

julienfmills 09-16-2013 09:05 AM

To where?
 
So what distribution is he going to be using?

qweasd 09-16-2013 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottavio (Post 5026663)
I don't see any point in following Slackware any more because of the stubbornness of the Slackware crowd in thinking that smartphones and tablets are not proper computers [...]

Strawman. Of course they are "real computers", no one is claiming the opposite seriously. But until manufacturers pull their heads out of their behinds, open specs, and start providing free drivers, a community project such as Slackware has no chance on these platforms. And yes, it's pointless to even try: if this is their attitude, then they'll happily break whatever compatibility we manage to achieve, just to spite us.

YellowApple 09-16-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qweasd (Post 5028557)
Strawman. Of course they are "real computers", no one is claiming the opposite seriously. But until manufacturers pull their heads out of their behinds, open specs, and start providing free drivers, a community project such as Slackware has no chance on these platforms. And yes, it's pointless to even try: if this is their attitude, then they'll happily break whatever compatibility we manage to achieve, just to spite us.

Well, I wouldn't say they'd spite us, but they certainly won't bother to check with any such community project before rolling out some new "feature" that makes the lives of non-Google (and/or non-Microsoft) OS users a nightmare.

Thankfully, the rise of alternative Android distributions (CyanogenMod especially) gives at least a wee bit of hope, since such AOSP work is most successful on devices with open and well-documented hardware, thus driving the sales of such open and well-documented hardware. Thanks to CyanogenMod and other AOSP-based Android distros, it might be possible to piggyback SlackwareARM on a CyanogenMod kernel/modules, much like how Firefox OS bases its b2g builds from devices' CyanogenMod releases.


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