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Old 04-29-2021, 04:32 AM   #76
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Since we are discussing CRUX, something that I really liked about it was prt-get. Such an elegant tool. If I knew C++, I would try to make it work with SlackBuilds.org... Maybe it's not too late to learn?
It have and uses dependency resolution, then it's as un-Slackware as could be.

Yeah, (even) CRUX uses dependency resolution for its ports.

So, did you want to be accused of blasphemy?

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Old 04-29-2021, 04:51 AM   #77
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It have and uses dependency resolution, then it's as un-Slackware as could be.
Not by pkgutils, written by Per Lidén. You can happily omit automated dependency resolution.

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Yeah, (even) CRUX uses dependency resolution for its ports.
I said SlackBuild.org, which supports dependency resolution by third party tools. sbotools has a quite similar idea to prt-get.
 
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Old 04-29-2021, 10:38 AM   #78
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luckycyborg
do you speak spanish?
Because of Vaya con Dios?

I read that as a reference to the mighty "Night owls" album...

... or maybe more specific to the tracks "Far gone now" and "Pack your memories"


Vaya con Dios, big fan here!


In case you're unaware - or curious - go get "Night owls". It's a masterpiece.


/edit: and we now have a contender for the probably most OT post ever on LQ.

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Old 05-01-2021, 05:53 AM   #79
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However, considering that I am running my own Xfce desktop on -current (recompiled 4.12, because I cannot stand GTK3), doing the same on CRUX seems like a viable option.
Interesting: did you use the slackbuild scripts from Slack 14.2 source for the recompile of Xfce or just config/make/make install the sources from Xfce project?

(Apologies for the thread hijack/resurrection)
 
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Old 05-01-2021, 06:11 AM   #80
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Interesting: did you use the slackbuild scripts from Slack 14.2 source for the recompile of Xfce or just config/make/make install the sources from Xfce project?

(Apologies for the thread hijack/resurrection)
Exactly. Recomplied Xfce from 14.2. I upgraded a thing or two, but it's pretty much the same. I have to note that I am running a -current installation from January 2021, which I have not updated since.

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Old 05-01-2021, 01:22 PM   #81
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Exactly. Recomplied Xfce from 14.2. I upgraded a thing or two, but it's pretty much the same.
Tried xfce4 4.10 from Slackware 14.1. Xfce4-terminal wanted a lot of extra libraries (i.e. earlier versions than on current as of 1st May 21) so I skipped terminal and just used xterm. power-manager, volume control thing and so on also either did not build or work. However the basic core of xfce4 worked fine. I'm reading up on themes, the way firefox/seamonkey and all do their scroll bars &c. Interesting, thanks

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Old 05-01-2021, 04:23 PM   #82
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Tried xfce4 4.10 from Slackware 14.1. Xfce4-terminal wanted a lot of extra libraries (i.e. earlier versions than on current as of 1st May 21) so I skipped terminal and just used xterm. power-manager, volume control thing and so on also either did not build or work. However the basic core of xfce4 worked fine. I'm reading up on themes, the way firefox/seamonkey and all do their scroll bars &c. Interesting, thanks
if you find some old school looking themes, please let me know. As for Xfce Terminal -- I use the newest one (GTK3), because there were some changes in VTE that made clicking in ncurses-based CLI programs not work correctly. For example, I had trouble with htop.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 09:50 PM   #83
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/edit: and we now have a contender for the probably most OT post ever on LQ.
Oh Lord. Talk about throwing down the gauntlet.
 
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Old 05-01-2021, 09:55 PM   #84
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It have and uses dependency resolution, then it's as un-Slackware as could be.

Yeah, (even) CRUX uses dependency resolution for its ports.

So, did you want to be accused of blasphemy?
I use slapt-get to install the crap that I build for myself via slackrepo. I occasionally know what optional dependencies that I've added to those builds, so I'm more-or-less happy with the results. I have to tell slackroll to ignore those packages, but since it has an "unavailable-foreign" command, that's pretty easy to do.

If slapt-get tells me that I need to upgrade and/or install a package that I didn't build myself, I abort the upgrade and investigate what happened. YMMV.
 
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Old 05-02-2021, 02:47 AM   #85
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To all of you, that think CRUX is some mysterious wonderland full of delights, I strongly encourage you to give it a try. Maybe after that you will appreciate everything that Slackware does for its users and that you take for granted.

Don't interpret it as a criticism towards CRUX, though. It just has a different approach. As I wrote before, I really like it, it is a very nicely designed system.

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Old 05-02-2021, 03:10 AM   #86
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CRUX: the place where the old elephants Slackers gone to die...

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Old 05-02-2021, 04:56 AM   #87
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I kind of see CRUX sitting somewhere between LFS and Gentoo.
Solarfields is right, it's a very different beast to Slackware: which does so much for you.

Speaking of beasts, at least Zhao' didn't say "Dinosaur". I can live with "Elephant". Having a trunk would be really useful!
 
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Old 05-02-2021, 11:34 AM   #88
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With the invention of the Double Bubbler, demand soared for Taylor's drinking fountains.
the natural consequences of cotton mouth

after using the double bubbler, I now see that one stream is slackware, the other is in flux, and when it bubbles there's an arch
 
Old 05-02-2021, 12:38 PM   #89
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I'm noticing a recent trend here on LQ. We're getting a lot of jerks that are registering here with the sole purpose of sowing discord by criticizing and attacking our operating system.
Perhaps we should not rise to the bait? I'm as guilty as anyone for rising up and answering the critiques. I have mixed feelings about this.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 01:47 PM   #90
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We're getting a lot of jerks that are registering here with the sole purpose of sowing discord by criticizing and attacking our operating system.
it's the antisla movement: a bunch of slackless antibobs bloated on nietzchean resenntiment... the best thing to do is either the Regnad Kcin Maneuver (immediately post random historical trivia about drinking water fountains) or just dismiss them in latin, with comments like ad hominum or ad absurdum.
 
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