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View Poll Results: Should Pat just drop KDE?
Yes 45 23.56%
No 122 63.87%
Undecided or don't care 24 12.57%
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:28 AM   #46
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FWIW in Slint installing KDE is optional (this the only optional set of packages). But if installed users may choose to hide most of KDE apps in the desktop's menu when not running KDE. Just run as root hide-kde-apps, revert with show-kde-apps. In all cases kdepim is only showan in KDE4s menu.
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:36 AM   #47
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I answered no.

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I wonder how many people actually run -current and use my Plasma5.
Be interesting to know. I use it on a daily basis on this desktop computer and a laptop I use every day at a non-profit I belong to. My wife uses it on her laptop. My son uses it on his desktop.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 04:37 AM   #48
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CPU usage.

You're going to make me look through my back issues, aren't you?
No.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 04:44 AM   #49
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If there's one function this poll has served, it's shown that Slackware users overwhelmingly use KDE or KDE packages. I'm surprised since I see no need for it at all, and my systems are more than capable of dealing with it.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 04:58 AM   #50
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I don't use KDE, nor install any of the related packages besides qt, but I think KDE should not be dropped. Slackware, as a general-purpose distro should have at least one popupar DE.

That said, as I understand only Pat and a handful of people maintain Slackware's packages, so if it comes to a point that it becomes too much work to maintain it, personally I won't miss it. But if building and upgrading KDE is already fairly streamlined, then I believe it should be included.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 06:05 AM   #51
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If there's one function this poll has served, it's shown that Slackware users overwhelmingly use KDE or KDE packages. I'm surprised since I see no need for it at all, and my systems are more than capable of dealing with it.
Of course you don't need it. People use it because they like it.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:12 AM   #52
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Of course you don't need it. People use it because they like it.
I suppose that was really my point - I wonder if there are KDE packages/functionality that some people feel are necessary to their work which are not provided by Xfce.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 06:31 AM   #53
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I suppose that was really my point - I wonder if there are KDE packages/functionality that some people feel are necessary to their work which are not provided by Xfce.
Eric answered here.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:35 AM   #54
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I use -current and KDE5 Plasma, please dont drop it.

It's the only DE that is stable for me. XFCE4, i3, enlightenment, MATE all have problems with fullscreen applications (in my case wine gaming stuff) and KDE5 Plasma is the only one that can handle it without crashing/black screen problems.
 
Old 10-09-2019, 07:02 AM   #55
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If there's one function this poll has served, it's shown that Slackware users overwhelmingly use KDE or KDE packages. I'm surprised since I see no need for it at all, and my systems are more than capable of dealing with it.
With my 2in1 which is quite low on resources I tried to set up a fully KDE-less system. If turns out the one KDE app I just can't live without is Okular. It is a truly great PDF reader. And blazingly fast. So I ended up pulling in most of ktown to get it. Not ideal but hey, at least I have lots of other glorious KDE apps to play with now.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:17 AM   #56
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I suppose that was really my point - I wonder if there are KDE packages/functionality that some people feel are necessary to their work which are not provided by Xfce.
And my point that there is hardly anything that anyone really needs. We could get by with just twm if we had no other choice. That doesn't make it reasonable to remove all the DEs and just keep twm.

Yeah, I could use Xfce if I had to, but I don't want to.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:21 AM   #57
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The simplest solution is not to install KDE if one doesn't want it.

Calligra should be dropped. My experience with Calligra Sheets and Karbon was that they are not production-quality software.
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:52 AM   #58
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The simplest solution is not to install KDE if one doesn't want it.
Which is what I've not done ever since kde4 came along. The issue for me is that KDE4 in current means Qt4 in current. As Eric has pointed out: though one can add Qt5 as a 3rd party package oneself, every time Pat bumps certain packages in current it requires rebuilding, and that is a right royal pain.

I suspect a good proportion of the "remove it" camp, just want to do so because they believe it to be holding back Qt5 inclusion.
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 08:18 AM   #59
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Out of curiosity, what's the rationale for not having Qt5 part of slackware the way python3 is part of slackware? (at least current)
 
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:53 AM   #60
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This is an old debate. I have not changed my opinion.
These days I do not run KDE routinely, but I still use KDE programs, so it needs to stay.
Give Pat a break, a new release needs some shiny new goodies. Easter eggs are a bonus.

The whining about Qt5 gives me a headache. If your workflow is so precious, build it, install it, and compile what needs it. It is not the distribution holding you back, but a failure to engage.
 
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