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Old 02-12-2004, 04:57 PM   #1
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Dropline vs. KDE


Now that I'm a converted Slacker I've been trying to make myself at home w/ my new desktop. Is there a difference in performance or memory footprint between dropline Gnome vs. KDE? I've used kde for so long that I don't really remember gnome all that well. Are there any overwhelming difficulties or differences in getting desktop apps to work with dropline compared to kde. Or are there any gerneal toughts about the matter are welcome.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 05:07 PM   #2
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Well I use (out of the two) KDE,
Dropline is nice, well rounded, a little less memory demanding but not that much.
Dropline has a nice installer and updater.
KDE has some nice tools...

I'd say they are about the same... try both and see which one you like better.

However, I also use Windowmaker... (My personal fav.) about as much as KDE...

And as for apps... run whatever you like... you can run gnome apps in KDE and KDE apps in gnome....
 
Old 02-12-2004, 05:18 PM   #3
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I've never used Dropline, however I just switched over to KDE from regular GNOME. I feel that KDE is by far the better of the two in a lot of ways.

People always mention the uber fonts that dropline has, but with anti-aliased fonts and bitstream vera sans, the fonts in KDE are great. KDE has a well-integrated control center and hardware info app. It's basically more mature as a system.

Although I'm not into this as much, apparently writing apps for KDE is a million times easier than for gnome - so in the long run this should mean that KDE outpaces gnome.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 06:16 PM   #4
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I'd go for KDE3.2 rather than dropline. I much prefer the user interface and it's so much more configurable (for stuff like custom toolbar icons etc, it's the little things that count). With preloading it's pretty damn quick too, konqeuror will load instantly. As well as not being as keen on the gnome interface, I also found that dropline wasn't as stable as I'd been expecting it to be.

Having said that, I've moved to fluxbox + a few gtk2 apps (that don't require gnome apps) + command line tools, I find it's a really good arrangement. About the only KDE app I use is kate, I wish there was something like it that was just gtk2.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:08 PM   #5
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I guess that brings up another point, I'm eventually planning on whipping up some personalized gui apps. I've noticed that kde uses the non-gpl QT, where as gnome uses gtk2 (and gtk1 which is not compatible w/ 2 supposedly). Does the whole qt thing irk anyone? 'eh, I guess it makes no real difference in the long run
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:22 PM   #6
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The version of qt for non-proprietary apps is GPLed, afaik you only have to pay for a licence if you want to make a profit from your app or use it in a closed source project.

Bruce Perens wasn't going to include kde in his userlinux project but in the end he decided to include it because of the weight of popular opinion.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:27 PM   #7
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does KDE 3.2 create ~100 dot files? :-) that's the #1 reason i don't use gnome or kde, they clutter my $HOME dir...
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:34 PM   #8
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Most of the kde stuff stays in ~/.kde/ or ~/.qt/, not sure about gnome but I think it tends to make a separate directory for each app.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 07:57 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by Piratero
does KDE 3.2 create ~100 dot files? :-) that's the #1 reason i don't use gnome or kde, they clutter my $HOME dir...
lol, you have a point there (no pun intended)!
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:14 PM   #10
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Originally posted by ferreter
.., I'm eventually planning on whipping up some personalized gui apps. I've noticed that kde uses the non-gpl QT, where as gnome uses gtk2 (and gtk1 which is not compatible w/ 2 supposedly). Does the whole qt thing irk anyone? 'eh, I guess it makes no real difference in the long run
I've experienced "the qt thing irk anyone, makes no real difference in the long run " does REALY make non spuorious difference in very short term!! There is Sharp Teeth of the mouse jitter events, overwheelm the general conceptual of the event-handlers because the events propagation/promotion is depending on the rates generated events.

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Old 02-12-2004, 09:20 PM   #11
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What? If that was rant, it sure was an interesting read.
 
Old 02-12-2004, 09:37 PM   #12
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Whew!!! Really... I could only get through the first couple sentences of the second paragraph.... It made my brain lock up........ That was pretty cool actually........
 
Old 02-12-2004, 10:34 PM   #13
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wtf
 
Old 02-12-2004, 11:15 PM   #14
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I'd go for KDE3.2 rather than dropline. I much prefer the user interface and it's so much more configurable (for stuff like custom toolbar icons etc, it's the little things that count). With preloading it's pretty damn quick too, konqeuror will load instantly
Well said Kovacs - KDE is clearly the most powerful, fully featured and comprehensive desktop out there, and 3.2 is seriously fast.........
 
Old 02-13-2004, 01:46 AM   #15
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trees and surfaces and simple things...
Am very interested on how do they look like ? Maybe Kovacs can tell more ..

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