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Old 07-31-2018, 02:57 PM   #466
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Please folks let's step back from the non-Slackware political discussion. There's nothing for us there but trouble.

Many have an opinion on the subject. I have a strong one, but will resist voicing it here because it will not do anybody any good.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:05 PM   #467
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On orbea's ...............


Let's also not forget three of these inter-related websites
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Looking at these links led to this alternative which I wasn't familiar with, but it makes me wonder if it could be a good choice?

https://www.merchantinc.com/
 
Old 07-31-2018, 03:14 PM   #468
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It looks like every thread on this forum ends up in a endless disagreement, lately.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:33 PM   #469
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It looks like every thread on this forum ends up in a endless disagreement, lately.
I think 30+ pages is pretty good. If you give any thread on the internet 30+ pages there'll be an argument in there somewhere.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:34 PM   #470
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I lived in the Bay Area for only five years, but made a lot of friends among families who were natives to the area, so I can certainly understand those residents who don't have warm fuzzies for the the tech industry.
Thank you for understanding, sorry I harshed the buzz in this thread with my personal dislikes. I feel good now after mailing a check. I was too lazy too even send you an email, now I'm kind of glad I waited. Watching everything burn around here is a bummer.

Tthank you SlackerDude for recommending GOM Linux! (shakes fist at sky) that helped me LOL.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 03:41 PM   #471
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I'm a rarity, I guess. I've never had any issues with PayPal or any reason to bitch about them.
Nor I. PayPal has made things very easy for me many, many times, since I live on a tiny fixed income and and disabled and have only a motorcycle for transportation (it doesn't make sense just reading that like that, but it means a heck of a lot when I *HAD* to get things and had no way to *ride* or *drive* anywhere to get them - for instance when needing a part for the bike. I do *ALL* my own repairs and even change my own tires, but as disabled as I am, it takes me several hours to do one tire not including the wait for the tire, etc). I'm grateful for PayPal as it's helped me immensely over the past 15 years or so, and it will help me give my pittance to Pat this coming 3rd of August.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:07 PM   #472
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I think 30+ pages is pretty good. If you give any thread on the internet 30+ pages there'll be an argument in there somewhere.
Indeed. I prefer a bit of life in a forum, even if SNR is not ideal for some people.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:52 PM   #473
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I'm trying to clean up years of neglecting everything other than Slackware here.
Replace the word Slackware with just about anything else and you'll find all of us have done that at one time or another. Or, to use a common expression, "Been there done that!"

Glad to hear good news coming from you.

We're all in this together.
 
Old 07-31-2018, 05:03 PM   #474
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Options for supporting PV and Slackware

I thought I'd consolidate the ways that we can support Patrick and Slackware so far. These are listed in the order that they were given and no preference is given to one or the other

1. Through Paypal - https://www.paypal.me/volkerdi
Ref: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5883695

2. Through Pat's PO Box - PO BOX 172, Sebeka, MN 56477
Ref: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5886096

As posted by other members, this thread is about supporting Patrick and Slackware. Please refrain from turning it into something else.

Last edited by vino29; 07-31-2018 at 05:04 PM. Reason: fixed spacing
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:02 PM   #475
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Just as another option. Venmo. I've used it before for paying roommates, etc. For bank transfers and use of debit card the transactions are free. Small fee for credit card transaction.

https://venmo.com/about/product/
 
Old 07-31-2018, 06:18 PM   #476
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I think a yearly subscription or maybe a release-based subscription model makes more sense (to me at least) than a monthly one, got no issues with paypal either.
I don't have a problem contributing to an OS that is incredibly stable.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 08:14 PM   #477
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To Pat
Just my two cents, however, there some company’s that work very well using Patreon.
Single, monthly, etc..donations.
Thank you for all you have done in the past 25 years.
 
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:52 PM   #478
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Many suggestions have come by already, but some have pretty high costs depending on where the person that donates is based. Liberapay is linking to an interesting overview of the various options, see: https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-r...r-crowdfunding that might be worth looking through even though that list appears not fully up to date. It has some surprising ones that might fit with low costs (although I doubt that going for a coop model is an option).

btw) Paypal is indeed surprisingly unattractive for those in the UK for small donations as it would charge me a fixed fee equivalent to USD 2.81 + 7.4% of the donation if my maths add up.

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Old 07-31-2018, 10:50 PM   #479
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I shall reserve my personal views on the Paypal issue other than to say that I have found Paypal to be secure and reliable for a number of years.

I note, however, that the CEO of Paypal was profiled in this Sunday's New York Times business section. Whether or not one agrees with him, his position deserves a hearing first-hand.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/27/b...er-office.html

Regarding the larger issue of this thread, I think the concern about how to support Slackware going forward (as the kewl kids say) is laudable. I submit that it is time to sit back give Pat some breathing room, as he is clearly committed to protecting his baby, and we are going off-track big time.
 
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Old 08-01-2018, 12:58 AM   #480
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Now I feel a little bit bad about mentioning a minor problem with Paypal, actually not the company but a single representative. The company always treated me decently as far as corporations go. That said I'd like to point out something about perspective. For almost 20 years I lived in the mountains of Colorado, 5 miles outside a town of population 180. It was common in places around there to be able to drive for over a half hour and not see a single building. I don't think many Europeans (and elsewhere) grasp the size and amount of unsettled land that still exists in the US. Where I lived I saw black bears, poisonous snakes and mountain lions fairly regularly depending on season. Additionally for me and my family being able to hunt deer and elk netted my family 200-400 pounds of meat each year and though I did often hunt with a bow I also owned firearms and for both food and protection they were valuable tools.

I fully understand that living in cities one does not have such perspective just like when working for a dairy farmer for a time and while he was ranting, and not without good reasons, about the Environmental Protection Agency, I pointed out to him how different it was in other areas where environment actually needed such protection as in a river in Cleveland that has literally caught fire several times from industrial pollution and he was quite naturally flabbergasted. We all see things through our experiences.

Please understand that while the US does have some "gun nuts" it also has a much larger population that utilizes them as needed tools and children are taught very early on to respect and properly care for gun safety in a way that city kids have no exposure to, nor reason for. It is wise to understand the full meaning of "different strokes for different folks" and also that real freedom requires some tolerance for those with whom you disagree. I am far more concerned about money processors who act as if YOUR money was THEIRS and refuse to pay out to companies for whatever reason they muster or fabricate than I am about people owning firearms. IMHO The former is far more dangerous.

I also understand why Patrick chose Paypal for quick access but he is apparently seeking other avenues so none of this should reflect on he and his family no matter what your philosophy or politics or frame of reference is. Thank you for any consideration you may exercise in this matter hopefully expanding your perspective.
 
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