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Old 10-21-2014, 09:06 PM   #1
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Does Slackware have a discussion forum?


Obviously I don't mean here where we deal with software queries. I mean where we can discuss, speculate etc. instead of annoying, understandably, the moderators here and have a discussion that is between slackers and not with people from other distros who happened to see an interesting discussion of ours on LQ Spy.

LQ Spy was to help people get the widest possible exposure to their questions, rather than for people from another distro getting involved in a slacker discussion about slackware

I suppose I should really ask "which" forum, because there are some old usenet groups dedicated to Slackware - no doubt empty now except for some spam.

I would really like to have slackware discussions - not ask or answer questions as we do here - and to do it without being a PITA to the moderators or anyone else.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 09:22 PM   #2
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i met a spy once
they are bonkers
 
Old 10-22-2014, 12:14 AM   #3
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Maybe try #slackware on irc.freenode.net ?
 
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Old 10-22-2014, 02:35 AM   #4
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I would really like to have slackware discussions - not ask or answer questions as we do here - and to do it without being a PITA to the moderators or anyone else.
IMO choice of medium is part what one is comfortable with personally. There certainly is something to be said for the perception of speed with which discussions can unfold in an IRC channel. As for the PITA part (I wouldn't go as far and call it that) there's very little LQ members that actually require some extra TLC and most of that is handled by peer moderation anyway. I see no reason why such discussions couldn't have a place in this forum.

Now if you would question the "purity" of "mixed" discussions, of those being "influenced" or "tainted" by users of other distributions with "other ideas", then if you would want to entertain "slackware user-only discussions" you would need some sort of gatekeeper like using an invite-only channel or a moderated mailing list. But even then people could find ways to "infiltrate" by just asserting they are slackware users until they are clearly "identified" as "different", right? What's worse is you could end up with a pool of sheeple, or members who do not argue based on facts, who loudly voice an opinion that isn't backed by a deep knowledge of and active participation in all things slackware... And since no slackware user has any power or authority you would need to secure continuous and active participation of the distributions team for the necessary reality checks IMO. I do wonder what's wrong with accepting input from other members?
 
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Old 10-22-2014, 03:13 AM   #5
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IMO choice of medium is part what one is comfortable with personally. There certainly is something to be said for the perception of speed with which discussions can unfold in an IRC channel. As for the PITA part (I wouldn't go as far and call it that) there's very little LQ members that actually require some extra TLC and most of that is handled by peer moderation anyway. I see no reason why such discussions couldn't have a place in this forum.
Most of the french-speaking Linux forums have a special section called "Le bar", an informal space ungoverned by any rules except basic civility, where folks can hangout and freely discuss things between heaven and earth unheard of in Slackware: Britney Spears, politics, systemd, etc. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea having such a place on LQ. So the next time a discussion about the future of Slackware gets off the rails, it could simply be moved to "Le bar" instead of being closed.
 
Old 10-22-2014, 02:59 PM   #6
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Now if you would question the "purity" of "mixed" discussions, of those being "influenced" or "tainted" by users of other distributions with "other ideas"....
Slackers do have a different attitude than, say, someone who uses Ubuntu. I was trying to say that in the middle of a discussion where we are all talking about the same thing, i.e. Slackware, something which, at the very least we like, it is frustrating to read a post and then realise that the person doesn't even use Slackware, and thus isn't worried about its future and so on.

The fact is, many Linux users haven't the slightest idea what it is like to use slackware - poor souls.

They faint at the sight of a command line - good, not so much here on LQ - but nevertheless. I'm sure that they have great suggestions for us - like install systemd, apt, gnome and basically all the things we don't do.

The good people from Crux, Gentoo, LFS and the like were clearly not who I meant, btw
 
Old 10-22-2014, 03:40 PM   #7
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Discuss only with people sharing my tastes, ideas, opinions? No thanks, that would be too boring.
 
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:50 PM   #8
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Most of the french-speaking Linux forums have a special section called "Le bar", an informal space ungoverned by any rules except basic civility, where folks can hangout and freely discuss things between heaven and earth unheard of in Slackware: Britney Spears, politics, systemd, etc. Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea having such a place on LQ. So the next time a discussion about the future of Slackware gets off the rails, it could simply be moved to "Le bar" instead of being closed.
Does not the General (Non-*nix) section play that role? You'll find there all sorts of topic and the usual rules (eg. adherence to the topic, etc) are not really enforced there as long as the discussion is civilised. AFAIK, the General section is not limited to non-technical topics - if you want to rant (or have a casual conversation) about Slackware, Emacs or Lisp, I'm sure most people will be happy to keep it there.
 
Old 10-22-2014, 05:11 PM   #9
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<General> is still a moderated forum but the type of discussion could be Slackware as the OP sets the thread topic for members to follow or participate in the discussion.

LQ Rules still apply to <General> as it does throughout LQ. I suggest that someone open a thread with General Slackware discussion to see if the topic would work.

Hope this helps.
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Old 10-22-2014, 05:30 PM   #10
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Discuss only with people sharing my tastes, ideas, opinions? No thanks, that would be too boring.
We were talking about discussions about Slackware - a tad difficult with people who don't know slackware - wouldn't you think?
I didn't mean a slackware social group.
I'll leave it here.
Question answered.
 
Old 10-22-2014, 06:19 PM   #11
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I suppose I should really ask "which" forum, because there are some old usenet groups dedicated to Slackware - no doubt empty now except for some spam.
Usenet is definitely in its twilight years but alt.os.linux.slackware still can be useful and a combination of a decent server (I use individual.net) and some filtering of your own takes care of spam.....
 
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:41 AM   #12
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Thanks, andrew, it is still active
http://l0k1.free.fr/aolsfaq.html
 
Old 10-24-2014, 03:10 AM   #13
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Slackers do have a different attitude than, say, someone who uses Ubuntu. I was trying to say that in the middle of a discussion where we are all talking about the same thing, i.e. Slackware, something which, at the very least we like, it is frustrating to read a post and then realise that the person doesn't even use Slackware, and thus isn't worried about its future and so on. The fact is, many Linux users haven't the slightest idea what it is like to use slackware - poor souls. They faint at the sight of a command line - good, not so much here on LQ - but nevertheless. I'm sure that they have great suggestions for us - like install systemd, apt, gnome and basically all the things we don't do.
I understand your point, but I'm not sure that the degree of purity you envisage is desirable. In fact I would not underestimate the importance of discussions about Slackware being exposed, right here at LinuxQuestions, to everyone's potential attention: such exposure IMHO is a good thing, as Slackware is not intended to be a closed, elitist distribution, and everyone is welcome to try it and then decide if it fits his or her tastes and needs. Sometimes I joke about the alleged "zealotry" of some Linux users, but I believe that enthusiasm should not lead to exclusivism. For the record, some time ago Patrick Volkerding posted this:

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Slackware is not intended to be Linux for the SubGenius. It is intended to be Linux for anyone that appreciates the traditional UNIX-like ways of doing things, isn't afraid of the command line, wants the supplied packages to be as unmodified as possible, and likes to be able to expand the system through source code without tossing a wrench into the package manager.
So why not let everyone know about it, and participate if they want? I personally appreciate being exposed to other so-called Linux sub-cultures, and I find it enriching even if sometimes I disagree with them.

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Old 10-24-2014, 01:41 PM   #14
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<General> is still a moderated forum but the type of discussion could be Slackware as the OP sets the thread topic for members to follow or participate in the discussion.

LQ Rules still apply to <General> as it does throughout LQ. I suggest that someone open a thread with General Slackware discussion to see if the topic would work.

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
Since no one has started a Slackware General Discussion thread then I took making one on my own; https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...50#post5258950

Have fun & enjoy!
 
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Old 10-24-2014, 03:18 PM   #15
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LQ Tools to Read a Specific Linux-General Thread

It's easy for me to peruse the LQ Slackware forum and read the latest posts to the threads a few times a day.

I'll want to do the same with this single thread in the LQ General forum that onebuck just created, but I won't be reading the other threads in that forum. What is the best way to efficiently accomplish this?

Have LQ send an email with a link with EVERY new post? Seems wasteful.

Normally I click the "Go to first new post" link to the left of the thread title. It works great and brings me to the first post on the page which I haven't yet read.

Having the thread as a sticky in Linux-General is probably asking too much.

Is it technically possible to have a thread in the Slackware forum that is just a link to onebuck's thread? This Slackware forum thread would have to pop to the top of the list with new posts just like a normal thread and the "Go to first new post" link would have to work.

What's the best way for me to read new posts in that General-Linux thread?

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