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Old 05-16-2019, 01:30 AM   #1
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why Slackware server weighs 10G? the graphics are not installed. Debian server weighs 3G.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 03:38 AM   #2
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Hi,

I think you need to be much more specific. Which "Slackware server" and which "Debian server", and how are you determining the "weight"?

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Old 05-16-2019, 03:53 AM   #3
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I think OP is talking about root partition sizes.

I would also like to know this. Slackware is about 10GB for an install whereas Ubuntu/Devuan are about 5GB but, I have to be honest, I don't know why Slackware is more.

Recommending this be moved to Slackware forum.
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:14 AM   #4
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I would also like to know this. Slackware is about 10GB for an install whereas Ubuntu/Devuan are about 5GB
One factor is that slackware doesn't have -dev and -doc split-offs for application packages; on a server you probably wouldn't install those, saving some diskspace. Of course this means too that you cannot do any compilations ON a debian server without extra installing those packages.
On the other hand slackware does have glibc-solibs and openssl-solibs which you could install instead of the full package, saving some diskspace.

And furthermore, because of no dependance checking you have the tendency to install TOO much, packages which your server doesn't really need, especially in the l and n set.

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Old 05-16-2019, 04:21 AM   #5
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The recommended/full install on Slackware is about that size but it is possible to select other options which include package by package if you have the time.
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:08 AM   #6
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ruario explains it in the best way possible in this evergreen essay

https://docs.slackware.com/slackware..._off_slackware
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:38 AM   #7
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The biggest reductions can be made by not installing the KDE and kernel source series. This brings the size down to 8.8GB.
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:48 AM   #8
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I realized that all non-Slackware distributions store everything they need in repositories. Slackware stores everything you need on disk. therefore, such a large weight of about 10GB
Выделите текст, чтобы посмотреть примеры
 
Old 05-16-2019, 08:46 AM   #9
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You can cut down on Slackware's install size if you know what you are doing during installation. GB are the new MB. 5 GB isn't going to matter much with multi-terabyte drives.
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:46 PM   #10
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The short answer is that a default Slackware install includes stuff that some other distros do not include by default, such as kernel sources and headers, six window managers/desktop environments, and a full suite of KDE programs, plus several browsers and mail and ftp clients, and a slew of text editors.

I remember the fuss when Ubuntu removed the GIMP from the default installation *.iso several years ago so they could make sure the *.iso would fit on a CD.
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:40 PM   #11
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why Slackware server weighs 10G? the graphics are not installed. Debian server weighs 3G.
If you installed everything, "the graphics" damned well were installed.

The default runlevel isn't graphical, so you'd have to change that or set it as part of boot. FYI, it's runlevel 4 for graphical boot in Slackware.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 09:47 PM   #12
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why Slackware server weighs 10G? the graphics are not installed. Debian server weighs 3G.
If, as others have said, you installed Slackware leaving all of the default package groups selected, then you did indeed install X and a large selection of DM/WM. That would as you say weigh in about 10ish GB. If you want a leaner Slackware install, you can select just the package groups your server use case will need, or even down to the individual packages if you want to take the time. Keep in mind though the A package group is required.
 
Old 05-16-2019, 10:00 PM   #13
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GB are the new MB. 5 GB isn't going to matter much with multi-terabyte drives.
Tell that also to the guys who sells VPS, for example to those ones: https://welcome.linode.com/get-started-vps-2019/

When your VPS have the entire storage about 20GB or 25GB, probably you will not be so happy that the OS eat 10GB from them.

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Old 05-16-2019, 10:40 PM   #14
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why Slackware server weighs 10G?
Why not?
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:40 PM   #15
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Tell that also to the guys who sells VPS, for example to those ones: https://welcome.linode.com/get-started-vps-2019/

When your VPS have the entire storage about 20GB or 25GB, probably you will not be so happy that the OS eat 10GB from them.
There's always going to be exceptions to the rule, but generally speaking, almost all computers will have several hundred GBs if not several TBs. Yes, there will be those devices with 8GB or 16GB onboard storage or servers where you pay for extra space, but they are few and far between and probably don't apply to the vast majority of Slackware users.
 
  


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