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Old 04-11-2007, 11:08 AM   #1
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current with dropline gnome


hey,

i'd like to switch to slackware-current to use dri (xorg >= 7.1 needed). i have an ati mobility radeon x700 in a laptop with widescreen display, and this vesa stuff with 1024x768 on a 1280x800 screen is quite lousy... i have already got dri working on other distros, but slack 11 has xorg6.9 inside which dri won't work with.

however, i use dropline gnome and the last time i finally got dri working with some custom xorg packages from sourceforge, it broke gnome. it worked with kde, but not with gnome. i posted this to the dropline forum, but the thing is that they cannot support other packages than the ones from the last stable release (if my understanding is correct). now i'm afraid that if i rsync current and upgrade everything gnome will stop working again.

if anyone has already tried this (installing slack-current with dropline gnome) please let me know the result!
 
Old 04-11-2007, 11:12 AM   #2
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if anyone has already tried this (installing slack-current with dropline gnome) please let me know the result!
I tried it a few times and always had to roll back as the system had several broken features.
 
Old 04-11-2007, 11:17 AM   #3
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I tried it a few times and always had to roll back as the system had several broken features.
are you talking about the brokenness of current or dlg?
 
Old 04-11-2007, 11:26 AM   #4
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are you talking about the brokenness of current or dlg?
Dropline...
 
Old 04-11-2007, 11:29 AM   #5
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Dropline...
ok thanks, then i will stick with stable as long as someone persuades me to do the opposite =)
 
Old 04-11-2007, 12:09 PM   #6
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current is great, it has a new toolchain and modular X, but dlg on the other hand is a trainwreck waiting to happen. and if you dont believe me come into the slackware irc channel and ask about it (there is one dlg devel there ignore him)
 
Old 04-11-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
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hey,

i'd like to switch to slackware-current to use dri (xorg >= 7.1 needed). i have an ati mobility radeon x700 in a laptop with widescreen display, and this vesa stuff with 1024x768 on a 1280x800 screen is quite lousy... i have already got dri working on other distros, but slack 11 has xorg6.9 inside which dri won't work with.

however, i use dropline gnome and the last time i finally got dri working with some custom xorg packages from sourceforge, it broke gnome. it worked with kde, but not with gnome. i posted this to the dropline forum, but the thing is that they cannot support other packages than the ones from the last stable release (if my understanding is correct). now i'm afraid that if i rsync current and upgrade everything gnome will stop working again.

if anyone has already tried this (installing slack-current with dropline gnome) please let me know the result!
Hi. If you haven't seen yet, look at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
As far as I understand you are not satisfied with 1280x800 mode functioning. May be I haven't understood what do you want, but I'd suggest you to edit your xorg.conf "by hands":
Code:
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName      "LCD Panel 1280x800"
    HorizSync       31.5 - 90.0
    VertRefresh     60.0 - 60.0
    ModeLine       "1280x800" 88.0 1280 1344 1504 1728 800 803 809 848 -hsync -vsync
    Option         "dpms"
EndSection
My laptop also has a wide screen and the 1280x800 mode works pretty good. May be it won't make your dropline to be broken...
 
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Hi. If you haven't seen yet, look at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/
As far as I understand you are not satisfied with 1280x800 mode functioning. May be I haven't understood what do you want, but I'd suggest you to edit your xorg.conf "by hands":
...
no, my xorg.conf is working - on other, more up-to-date distros. it excludes any kind of static resolutions anyway.

the problem is that i can use the vesa driver only, which does not support 1280x800. for widescreen i need the radeon driver, which needs dri, which needs xorg>=7.1. but i'd like to use gnome, which at the moment supports officially 6.9 only. nice, eh?
 
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current is great, it has a new toolchain and modular X, but dlg on the other hand is a trainwreck waiting to happen. and if you dont believe me come into the slackware irc channel and ask about it (there is one dlg devel there ignore him)
heh, i still think that it was pat's worst decision to drop gnome. he said there are good gnome distributions out there already... well, i don't know about a GOOD one.
 
Old 04-11-2007, 02:06 PM   #10
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heh, i still think that it was pat's worst decision to drop gnome. he said there are good gnome distributions out there already... well, i don't know about a GOOD one.

ive heard freerock is pretty good. or at least doesnt replace a ton of slackware packages and use pam
 
Old 04-11-2007, 02:07 PM   #11
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Well, I won't debate about the decision as it was certainly not popular. I will say that Dropline never gave me any problems running on the officially supported Slack release and provided a solid desktop. Still, I can certainly understand someone's frustration at trying to run Slack-current and a Gnome desktop with Dropline. But this is obviously not the fault of DLG as it is only fair to expect they maintain their build environment against the stable tree.
 
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ive heard freerock is pretty good. or at least doesnt replace a ton of slackware packages and use pam
well OK but it's A BIT outdated. gnome 2.14.3 for slack 10.2 is the newest.

oh man, slack 11 & gnome 2.18.1 is out!!

 
Old 04-11-2007, 02:10 PM   #13
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Well, I won't debate about the decision as it was certainly not popular. I will say that Dropline never gave me any problems running on the officially supported Slack release and provided a solid desktop. Still, I can certainly understand someone's frustration at trying to run Slack-current and a Gnome desktop with Dropline. But this is obviously not the fault of DLG as it is only fair to expect they maintain their build environment against the stable tree.
i se.. however, it's also sad that while kde runs with a 3rd party xorg packset, gnome doesn't. it could be the fault of gnome, dlg, or both, no clue.
 
Old 04-11-2007, 10:28 PM   #14
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i se.. however, it's also sad that while kde runs with a 3rd party xorg packset, gnome doesn't. it could be the fault of gnome, dlg, or both, no clue.
GNOME (and Dropline GNOME) work fine with alternate x.org packs. Several people use them together.

If there was a specific problem that you experienced, it's likely that nobody was simply able to help you solve the problem. Dropline only tests with Slackware's X11, so there is no telling what may have been up on your system that resulted in problems.
 
Old 04-12-2007, 03:11 AM   #15
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GNOME (and Dropline GNOME) work fine with alternate x.org packs. Several people use them together.

If there was a specific problem that you experienced, it's likely that nobody was simply able to help you solve the problem. Dropline only tests with Slackware's X11, so there is no telling what may have been up on your system that resulted in problems.
no it does not work fine

http://forums.droplinegnome.org/viewtopic.php?t=5450
 
  


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