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Old 07-08-2018, 04:36 AM   #1
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Current state of -current


Hi all slackers here!

I use stable releases of Slackware and barely update something between them. I would be glad to hear from anybody using -current or actively tracking development process what is the current state of it? To be more precise, which major features were already implemented (except regular packages updates) and what we are still waiting for before the next stable release?

I noticed that -current ChangeLog has this entry from the 12th April:
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a/aaa_base-14.2-x86_64-3.txz: Rebuilt.
If the system is running -current, append a "+" to /etc/slackware-version.
Identify the system as stable or current in /etc/os-release by setting
VERSION_CODENAME to either stable or current. In PRETTY_NAME, really
spell it out, e.g: PRETTY_NAME="Slackware 14.2 (pre-15.0 -current)"
that seems very like it was near the end of development cycle a couple of months ago, but it still not released.

I am going to assume from this thread that the biggest issue that is under the development now is an adoption of Plasma 5. Is it true?

Please remark that my question is different from the classic "When the release will be?", since I know the answer -- "When it's ready".

All in all, what we are mainly waiting for in -current?
 
Old 07-08-2018, 04:49 AM   #2
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My two sentimos. All of your questions except the last can be answered in the provide links

http://www.slackware.com/changelog/c...php?cpu=x86_64

http://www.slackware.com/changelog/current.php?cpu=i386

As for the question last only Patrick Volkerding can answer it.
 
Old 07-08-2018, 07:12 AM   #3
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We haven't reached Alpha 1 yet
In the previous release, between Alphas, Betas, and final release it could take more than 6 months (it was from Beta 2 to Release).

But the end results pays off. You will get an amazing Linux distribution which is stable, secure, and provides a solid foundation to install many other packages on top of it.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:34 AM   #4
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Some of the biggest (IMO) changes from 14.2 are:
- pkgtools database moved to /var/lib/pkgtools
- lame included in default installation
- pulseaudio has become optional
- there was a mass rebuild to switch to the new C++ ABI (and remove .la files)
- ffmpeg was added
- subpixel hinting enabled by default in the freetype package
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 09:55 AM   #5
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Some of the biggest (IMO) changes from 14.2 are:
- pkgtools database moved to /var/lib/pkgtools
- lame included in default installation
- pulseaudio has become optional
- there was a mass rebuild to switch to the new C++ ABI (and remove .la files)
- ffmpeg was added
- subpixel hinting enabled by default in the freetype package
it could also be added
- postfix/dovecot replace for sendmail/imapd
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:06 AM   #6
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Cool

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We haven't reached Alpha 1 yet
In the previous release, between Alphas, Betas, and final release it could take more than 6 months (it was from Beta 2 to Release).
Indeed. When we start to see alpa and beta release candidates then we know that the stable release is closer.
Slackware 15.0 is shaping up to be a stellar stable release!
 
Old 07-08-2018, 12:51 PM   #7
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All I can say is that -current is far more stable than most other distros' stable releases... but to keep the excitement sometimes (very seldom) there is a little breakage. Thankfully, that's usually fixed quickly.

To all the above I would add:

- Kernel 4.14 series (4.14.53 so far)
- Firefox 60
- gcc 8.1
- TeXLive 2018 (this just in, and it's huge news for us TeXnicians)
- Xorg 1.20
- GIMP 2.10.4
... and the list goes on.

(hopefully we would also get Plasma 5 *fingers crossed*)

Last edited by sombragris; 07-08-2018 at 12:54 PM.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:55 PM   #8
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All I can say is that -current is far more stable than most other distros' stable releases...
Yes. I am running Slackware64-current on all of my machines; it runs flawlessly.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 01:06 PM   #9
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All I can say is that -current is far more stable than most other distros' stable releases... but to keep the excitement sometimes (very seldom) there is a little breakage. Thankfully, that's usually fixed quickly......
Agreed and something I've said many times, however since 29 June there has been a problem between networkmanager and the networkmanager-openvpn plug-in. I'm not sure where the problem lies, but I think it is, most likely, with the -openvpn plug-in. Re-built or not, the plug-in does not work with the most recent version of networkmanager and I've had to revert to both the previous version of networkmanager and an older build of the plug-in.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:16 PM   #10
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Agreed and something I've said many times, however since 29 June there has been a problem between networkmanager and the networkmanager-openvpn plug-in. I'm not sure where the problem lies, but I think it is, most likely, with the -openvpn plug-in. Re-built or not, the plug-in does not work with the most recent version of networkmanager and I've had to revert to both the previous version of networkmanager and an older build of the plug-in.
I have no problems here with NetworkManager 1.12.0, nm-applet 1.8.14 and NetworkManager-openvpn 1.2.10.

Have you updated since July 1st? (and rebuilt the nm/openvpn package afterwards)
There was a problem with nm-applet missing an option:
Code:
Sun Jul  1 18:49:11 UTC 2018
a/pciutils-3.6.0-x86_64-1.txz:  Upgraded.
a/sysvinit-scripts-2.1-noarch-13.txz:  Rebuilt.
  rc.M: remove sockets from /tmp/.X11-unix/. Thanks to Xsane.
n/NetworkManager-1.12.0-x86_64-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
  Recompiled with --with-libnm-glib. Thanks to Skaendo.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 06:43 PM   #11
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.....

Have you updated since July 1st? (and rebuilt the nm/openvpn package afterwards......)
Yes.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 10:41 AM   #12
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As I was up early this morning, I tried again. First I installed the latest NetworkManager and then build the networkmanager-openvpn plug-in via sbopkg.
Doesn't work. Doesn't do anything. Zip, zero, zilch, nada.
 
Old 07-09-2018, 12:01 PM   #13
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As I was up early this morning, I tried again. First I installed the latest NetworkManager and then build the networkmanager-openvpn plug-in via sbopkg.
Doesn't work. Doesn't do anything. Zip, zero, zilch, nada.
At times like this I would rerun netconfig and see if that helps. You never know
 
Old 07-09-2018, 01:18 PM   #14
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At times like this I would rerun netconfig and see if that helps. You never know
Just tried that. Installed the latest networkmanager, rebuilt the openvpn plugin, re-ran netconfig and rebooted. Result? Zip.

Went back to the previous newworkmanager and an older build of the plug-in, then rebooted, and the plug-in came back to life.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 07:42 PM   #15
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Wed Jul 18 19:54:26 UTC 2018
............
n/NetworkManager-1.12.0-x86_64-3.txz: Rebuilt.
Applied upstream patch to fix setting a VPN connection using nm-applet.
Thanks to Lockywolf.
............
Johnson and Lockywolf,
Many thanks for this.
It fixed the problem (without having to rebuild the plug-in).
 
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