Cinelerra

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 07:52 AM

I have some video editing (for work) I must do over the next couple of weeks and I would much prefer to do it in Slack. I just can't get Kdenlive to work, and I have used Cinelerra in the past. While much more complicated, it does seem to be stable now and I know it reasonably well. But I have never tried installing it in Slack and it must be done with source code. So, if anyone has it working in Slackware please let me know what issues you encountered in installing it and what you think of your Slackware experience with it. I have read all the threads on this forum, and one poster did try a complicated scr2pkg, but I know there is a version in the Slacky repos that I would try.

Thanks for any replies.

Bob

Ramurd · 08-07-2009, 08:26 AM

I am interested in this as well ;-) I have tried Cinelerre and somewhat got it to work; except that the only thing it seemed to do was put the computer at work for a very long time (around 10h for a 10min movie) resulting in a 4GB movie out of 100mb ogg movie, which even failed to play back... It made me look further and I got around to kdenlive...

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 08:43 AM

Well, I have it running in Fedora 10 (from a third party rpm repo). I haven't tried rendering with it yet, it is MUCH more stable than I remember being the last time I used (2006). This one is the Heroine Virtual version (which is apparently still being developed.) I could never get the CV version to install. I know the application pretty well and it hasn't changed too much since 2006, but is definitely more stable on Fedora. You probably already know that it has near-professional features
which can be daunting to someone new to video editing. It is definitely far more advanced than Kdenlive, and is really overkill for my needs. Kdenlive is more in line with what I need for the simple work I do, but no version I have tried is very stable on any distro, and as you know I have not been able to install it on Slack. But Slackware is my main OS that use for nearly everything. I have Ubuntu on this laptop solely for video editing, and Fedora because it was my first distro many years ago and I like to keep up to date with it. But just like everything else in Slackware, if I am ever able to get a working installation of Cinelerra (or Kdenlive for that matter), I know it will be faster, smoother and much more enjoyable to use.

Bob

disturbed1 · 08-07-2009, 02:25 PM

It runs fine on 64-current. I simply downloaded the svn version, configured (looked for missing deps

) compiled, installed.

Code:

$ cinelerra
Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
Compiled on Tue Jul  7 04:39:50 EDT 2009

----edit----
Have to agree about kdenlive. Nice looking app, and works quite well.....just before the crash

I have noticed the huge progress made with kdenlive over the years. Seeing that kino is pretty much dead, and the kino dev(s) have moved over to kdenlive, I've been trying out svn commits about 2x a month. Still waiting for the one.

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 03:43 PM

Thanks for that info....it helps. I installed the version from Slacky and it installed fine. I knew there would be about a dozen or so dependencies (which there were) missing, and I have worked my way through them one by one and I am down to just three that I can't seem to resolve (THANK GOODNESS FOR SBopkg):

Quote:

libfaad.so.0 => not found
libx264.so.65 => not found
libiec61883.so.0 => not found

The frustrating thing is that I DO have both faad installed as well as x264. I reinstalled them and I still keep getting this error. And the iec81883 is from www.linux1394.org and SlackBuild cannot connect to them to get the source file. It may run without that one because all of the other 1394 related stuff is installed. But it appears to be looking for faad when what I have installed is faad2, so it is not finding what it is looking for. The x264 is directly from SlackBuilds and it installed fine. Don't know why it continues to fail to find that one. I might uninstall this version and try the one you have mentioned.

Thanks for your reply..

Bob

disturbed1 · 08-07-2009, 04:12 PM

That's the reason I never install pre-compiled packages unless they come from Slackware. The package you installed is looking for different versions of faad and x264 than you have installed. Had you compiled Cinelerra from source, it would of picked up your installed libs, rather than those that were installed on some other guy's PC

You'll either have to compile Cinelerra from source, or install the same library versions that were used by the person that compiled the Cinelerra package you installed.

Here's a snip of my ldd for Cinelerra.

Code:

$ ldd /usr/bin/cinelerra                                                                                       
        libfaad.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libfaad.so.2 (0x00007f72ee39b000)
        libfaac.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libfaac.so.0 (0x00007f72ee18a000)
        libx264.so.67 => /usr/lib64/libx264.so.67 (
        libavc1394.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libavc1394.so.0 (0x00007f72e950b000)
        librom1394.so.0 => /usr/lib64/librom1394.so.0 (0x00007f72e9308000)
        libiec61883.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libiec61883.so.0 (0x00007f72e90fc000)
        libraw1394.so.11 => /usr/lib64/libraw1394.so.11 (0x00007f72e8eef000)
        libdv.so.4 => /usr/lib64/libdv.so.4 (0x00007f72e8cc5000)

Looks like linux1394.org is down. You can get the source to libiec61883 here http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/ieee1394/

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 04:25 PM

Thank you, I finally figured that out. Do you have a link to where you got your source from? It is not on the CV version web site. Got a cinelerra.git file, but I have no idea what to do with that.

Thanks Bob

disturbed1 · 08-07-2009, 04:49 PM

http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manu...nual_en_2.html

or

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php

The source code of Cinelerra-CV is available from a git repository. To get a copy for compilation use the following command

git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git my_cinelerra

So, just type git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git my_cinelerra in your favorite terminal emulator. Git is just another cvs/svn application.

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 05:04 PM

Thanks again, Disturbed1. Got it fine, but it fails to make because of a missing libfftw3 and libiec61883. Any ideas what those are? libfftw3 must be provided by another app, but no idea what. Everything else seems to be there now. If I can get these two dependencies, I think I will get it installed fine.

Bob

disturbed1 · 08-07-2009, 05:27 PM

They are both available at www.slackbuilds.org.

I already provided a link to the libiec61883 source file ( http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/ieee1394/ ), here's the SlackBuild http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12...s/libiec61883/

& for fftw -
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/12.2/libraries/fftw/
If you're on 64-current, I believe I had to make some minor adjustments to fftw to compile correctly. Post back if you run into any other issues

BobNutfield · 08-07-2009, 05:37 PM

Thanks again, disturbed1....thanks for walking me through this, I finally got it installed and just like I thought, it does run much smoother in Slack than it does in Fedora. I have already tried a clip with it and it works fine out of the box. In Fedora, I had to change some of the sound preferences to get sound, but it worked immediately with this install. I did find libfftw3, but the site that SlackBuilds gets the source for iec61883 is down or non-existent as I could not get it to download. But, Cinelerra compiled fine without it. I won't be using the firewire for capture as I do that on another machine and just transfer the clips to Slack for editing, so I probably won't need those libraries.

Unless, I run into some issues somewhere down the road, I won't need to do any editing in Ubuntu now, and that makes me very happy.

Again, thank you for your help.

Bob