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02-04-2014, 06:33 AM
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#61
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,484
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burgler09
I use Google Chrome and love it. Maybe it's in my head but I feel that it is a lot faster than all of the other browsers.
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Came in dead last every time I tested it.
Please read post #1 in this thread and use the link therein provided and see how it compares to other browsers you use.
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02-04-2014, 07:58 AM
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#62
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Moderator
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwizardone
Came in dead last every time I tested it.
Please read post #1 in this thread and use the link therein provided and see how it compares to other browsers you use.
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When someone claims that a browser is faster that doesn't mean that it magically increases your bandwidth limit, it means that the browser is rendering faster and feels in general snappier, something that can be easily explained by Chrom{e,ium}'s much better multithreading.
FWIW, I also made that test, with Firefox 24ESR and Chromium 32 (from AlienBob) and Chromium was slightly faster downloading, but slightly slower uploading. So your test (as mine) can only count as anecdotal evidence.
Anyways, what counts for me is not rendering speed, but functionality. As long as there isn't a Chrom{e,ium} plugin with the same functionality as Pentadactyl or Vimperator (no, Vrome and Vimium don't come even close) I won't switch.
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02-05-2014, 05:25 PM
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#63
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Member
Registered: Oct 2011
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 364
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Originally Posted by TobiSGD
Why not just download his binary package?
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Thanks. Did just that. I like it. To me, it does seems quicker than firefox. Will need to test more, so the jury is still out.
Last edited by j_v; 02-05-2014 at 06:00 PM.
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02-07-2014, 12:24 PM
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#64
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,351
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I endorse Alien Bob's Chromium package. It feels fast, it works great, it's stable, and it has perfect compatbility with LQ. And, of course, after you install his chromium-pepperflash-plugin package, it has the best Flash player.
Regarding cwizardone's speedtest.net results: I will resist the temptation to dismiss them as coincidence, but I also don't think that they have enough enough data to prove anything. If I were to do my own tests, I would do one identical test every day for two weeks, and then average the results.
Last edited by dugan; 02-07-2014 at 12:40 PM.
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02-07-2014, 12:41 PM
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#65
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Registered: May 2004
Distribution: BSD
Posts: 269
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Like TobiSGD, I'm a user of pentadactyl, and it does not seem like there is a real alternative for Chrom^(e ium). (I also like NoScript and RequestPolicy.)
What I noticed: on my Thinkpad T60 (with an Intel Core Duo + Intel graphics), some YouTube videos were very choppy with PepperFlash. The solution was to install and use Alien BOB's great pipelight packages: with these, I can play those videos fine, though pipelight takes some time to load the first time. (Unfortunately, Google wants to drop npapi support, which pipelight uses, so the future of it on using it with Chrom^(e ium) is uncertain; this is what I found regarding this issue on pipelight's launchpad site: https://answers.launchpad.net/pipeli...uestion/241737.)
edit: Oh, one addon I liked was Google Dictionary. I did not find something similar for Firefox.
Last edited by lems; 02-07-2014 at 12:57 PM.
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02-07-2014, 01:48 PM
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#66
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lems
Like TobiSGD, I'm a user of pentadactyl, and it does not seem like there is a real alternative for Chrom^(e ium). (I also like NoScript and RequestPolicy.)
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Same with me (all three extensions). There's not substitute on Chromium unfortunately.
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02-08-2014, 05:17 AM
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#67
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,484
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
...Regarding cwizardone's speedtest.net results: I will resist the temptation to dismiss them as coincidence, but I also don't think that they have enough enough data to prove anything. If I were to do my own tests, I would do one identical test every day for two weeks, and then average the results...
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Good idea. Why don't you do just that?
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02-08-2014, 05:30 AM
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#68
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Moderator
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
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Because there is no point in it. No browser will magically increase your bandwidth limit.
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02-08-2014, 05:38 AM
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#69
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,484
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TobiSGD
Because there is no point in it. No browser will magically increase your bandwidth limit.
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Well, you keep saying that, and that is obvious, that is, if you are running the same test on the same connection one wouldn't expect the bandwidth to change, but some browsers seem, no, are, better, i.e., faster at retrieving the data and displaying it (painting the page, so to speak). So what is one browser doing that it can display the transmitted data faster than another?
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02-08-2014, 06:03 AM
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#70
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Moderator
Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Germany
Distribution: Whatever fits the task best
Posts: 17,148
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwizardone
Well, you keep saying that, and that is obvious, that is, if you are running the same test on the same connection one wouldn't expect the bandwidth to change, but some browsers seem, no, are, better, i.e., faster at retrieving the data and displaying it (painting the page, so to speak). So what is one browser doing that it can display the transmitted data faster than another?
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In the case of Chrome versus Firefox it is caused by using a different render engine (Webkit/Blink vs. Gecko) and having better support for multi-threading.
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02-18-2014, 12:33 PM
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#71
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,351
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* sigh. Alien Bob's Chromium package is stabler than Chrome was, but it still locks up in VirtualBox. I suspect that this is actually VirtualBox's fault; Chrome and Chromium are GPU accelerated, and VirtualBox's OpenGL virtualization is horrible.
Last edited by dugan; 02-18-2014 at 02:16 PM.
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02-18-2014, 01:00 PM
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#72
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Member
Registered: Nov 2013
Location: Antalya
Distribution: Slackware64 current
Posts: 119
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I am quite happy with Alien Bob's chromium/pepper combo. Use FF only with Tor.
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02-18-2014, 01:02 PM
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#73
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Member
Registered: Mar 2010
Location: oregon
Distribution: slackware64-15.0 / slarm64-current
Posts: 815
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I'm too busy surfing to bother with changing surfboards at the moment...
Firefox handles well enough for me, and the chicks dig it.
If it ain't broke don't fix it...
Slack on Dudes.
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02-18-2014, 03:25 PM
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#74
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Slackware Contributor
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
* sigh. Alien Bob's Chromium package is stabler than Chrome was, but it still locks up in VirtualBox. I suspect that this is actually VirtualBox's fault; Chrome and Chromium are GPU accelerated, and VirtualBox's OpenGL virtualization is horrible.
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You could try adding commandline parameters that disable the GPU rendering functions. Perhaps that makes Chromium behave better in VirtualBox. For instance, in the file "/etc/default/chromium" add these to the CHROMIUM_FLAGS variable:
Code:
--blacklist-accelerated-compositing --blacklist-webgl
The "--blacklist-accelerated-compositing" blacklists the GPU for accelerated compositing, and "--blacklist-webgl" blacklists the GPU for WebGL.
Eric
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02-18-2014, 03:27 PM
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#75
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Slackware Contributor
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slac-in-the-box
If it ain't broke don't fix it...
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There is nothing broken here. It is a matter of expanding your options. Nobody forces you to use Chromium.
Eric
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