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John VV 01-19-2014 12:27 AM

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I didn't know you could run apps in Chromium
it is free but you do need a gmail account

you can also get a bit creative with the *.desktop file for angrybirds and bypass everything and with a double click have just the game full screen
---- edited to remove MY user id
Code:

#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[Desktop Entry]
Categories=Application;ArcadeGame;
Name=AngryBirds
Comment=Angry Birds

Exec=chromium %u --app-id=1234567890qwertyuiop123456789012 --profile-directory=Default
Icon=AngryBirds.png
Terminal=false
MimeType=text/html;application/xhtml+xml
Type=Application
OnlyShowIn=KDE;


k3lt01 01-19-2014 01:48 AM

Regardless of appearance Chrome and Chromium are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by http://www.chromium.org/
The Chromium projects include Chromium and Chromium OS, the open-source projects behind the Google Chrome browser and Google Chrome OS, respectively. This site houses the documentation and code related to the Chromium projects and is intended for developers interested in learning about and contributing to the open-source projects.

Chromium is open source and as such is modified by the groups that supply it to only include what they want it to have. Chromium is the base of Chrome. Chrome is Google's and has all the googleware Google can put in it whereas Chromium doesn't.

brianL 01-19-2014 07:32 AM

Tried it briefly, didn't like it. Satisfied with Firefox (using ruario's latest-firefox script).

gargamel 01-19-2014 01:49 PM

The major advantage of Chrome and Chromium compared to Mozilla browsers (Firefox and Seamonkey) is multi-tasking and sand-boxing. Every tab is run as a separate process. If you open many pages in multiple tabs at the same time, Chromium and Chrome will definitely load them faster than other browsers, provided that you have enough RAM. Also, if one of the pages you open crashes, it affects only one tab, not the whole browser. Another advantage for some (mostly corporate) users is, that Chrome (not sure about Chromium, here) renders more pages that have been "optimised" for MS Internet Explorer 6, 7 or 8. Also, I can confirm that Chrome (again, not sure about Chromium here) feels a bit faster than Firefox on Windows. But, amazingly, so does Seamonkey (one of my two favourite browsers). On Linux, Seamonkey seems to be way faster than Chrome or Chromium for the pages I visit frequently and as long as I don't open too many pages in parallel.

One of multiple downsides: The technology used by Chrome and Chromium requires a lot of RAM to leverage its advantages. Other downsides have been mentioned already by others in this thread.

I think, it must be clearly differentiated between Chrome, which is Google's next generation spyware, and Chromium, which is also provided by Google as open source. The latter is probably something one might trust in, although possibly at the price of a lack of some "features" (don't know, which, actually, maybe someone else can elaborate on this).

Regarding Opera: Unfortunately the Norwegians decided to abandon their own rendering engine and use Google's engine from now on. They "only" contribute their own GUI, which is currently way behind of what they had to offer in the past, regarding innovative features and capabilities. Competition was to heavy, it seems, and they saw now chance to survive any longer, at less than 2 percent market share, with no indication of significant growth ahead.

gargamel

gargamel 01-19-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbell (Post 5100548)
[...]
I am also wary that, when it comes to "Don't be evil," Google has a blind-spot for Google.

Excellent way to put it. I like that. ;)

gargamel

Alien Bob 01-19-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 5100966)
I think, it must be clearly differentiated between Chrome, which is Google's next generation spyware, and Chromium, which is also provided by Google as open source. The latter is probably something one might trust in, although possibly at the price of a lack of some "features" (don't know, which, actually, maybe someone else can elaborate on this).

This page: http://chromium.woolyss.com/ has some nice information regarding Chromium and how it differs with Chrome (scroll down to the "Features" section).

Eric

ruario 01-19-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 5100966)
Regarding Opera: Unfortunately the Norwegians decided to abandon their own rendering engine and use Google's engine from now on. They "only" contribute their own GUI

Ummm no, granted we are still ramping up how much we commit but we are committing to both Blink and Chromium: http://operasoftware.github.io/upstreamtools/

dugan 01-19-2014 02:37 PM

While we're on the topic of Google: Google lost a lot of credibility for me today.

https://twitter.com/duganchen/status/424970298224431105

m.a.l.'s pa 01-19-2014 02:56 PM

I was a long-time Firefox (and Iceweasel) user, but I use Chromium most of the time now. Sometimes I'll use Chrome, but I prefer to use Chromium.

Seems to me that Chromium's faster than Firefox. Certainly seems to start up faster. I could be wrong; maybe it depends on what extensions are being used. Anyway, that doesn't matter much to me because I'm fine with either browser's speed.

I like Chromium's interface better, that's the main thing.

I am not real concerned about Google. Also, I don't dislike Firefox, and I think I'd be fine if I went back to using that all the time. I'm logged into Debian Wheezy at the moment, and I have both Chromium and Iceweasel installed here; in other distros, I usually have Firefox installed even though I usually use Chromium. Whatever.

gargamel 01-19-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ruario (Post 5101001)
Ummm no, granted we are still ramping up how much we commit but we are committing to both Blink and Chromium: http://operasoftware.github.io/upstreamtools/

Thanks, so I stand corrected. I didn't know how actively you contribute to Chromium and/or Blink, I only read some announcements that you were planning on doing so, before. I like Opera a lot in the past, and I always hoped it would get far more acceptance. I also liked M2, which was one of the most innovative mail clients I have ever used. I wish Opera a lot of luck and a much better, successful future. I have a lot of sympathy for small, but innovative scandinavian software companies, like Opera and Trolltech/Digia. :)

gargamel

kingbeowulf 01-19-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by John VV (Post 5100605)
Angry birds

that is about the ONLY thing i use it for
that and if i am out and about on a windows machine someplace i can log in and have all my bookmarks

meh. http://chrome.angrybirds.com/ plays fine in firefox

stormtracknole 01-19-2014 05:24 PM

I've noticed that on several flash only website that my kids go to, Firefox with Adobe is slow, slow! However, that is not the case with PepperFlash and Chrome. I've tried and tried to get it to work with Firefox, but I have not been successful. So, I'm being forced to use Chrome at the moment. This is probably due to Adobe abandoning flash (Linux) and not adding new features.

cwizardone 01-19-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gargamel (Post 5101065)
Thanks, so I stand corrected. I didn't know how actively you contribute to Chromium and/or Blink, I only read some announcements that you were planning on doing so, before. I like Opera a lot in the past, and I always hoped it would get far more acceptance. I also liked M2, which was one of the most innovative mail clients I have ever used. I wish Opera a lot of luck and a much better, successful future. I have a lot of sympathy for small, but innovative scandinavian software companies, like Opera and Trolltech/Digia. :)

gargamel

For all practical purposes, Opera is dead. It has been just about a year since they started putting out their chrome clone, and a very poor clone it is, and they have yet to offer a version for Linux.

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Originally Posted by stormtracknole (Post 5101079)
I've noticed that on several flash only website that my kids go to, Firefox with Adobe is slow, slow! However, that is not the case with PepperFlash and Chrome. I've tried and tried to get it to work with Firefox, but I have not been successful. So, I'm being forced to use Chrome at the moment. This is probably due to Adobe abandoning flash (Linux) and not adding new features.

Have you tried Alien Bob's pipelight?

http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/pipe...inux-browsers/

stormtracknole 01-19-2014 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5101209)
For all practical purposes, Opera is dead. It has been just about a year since they started putting out their chrome clone, and a very poor clone it is, and they have yet to offer a version for Linux.



Have you tried Alien Bob's pipelight?

http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/pipe...inux-browsers/

I forgot about that! Will need to give this a try.

Myk267 01-20-2014 12:26 PM

Chromium is the only browser I can get that will play music from grooveshark's html5 interface. It doesn't feel too smart to have two browsers open, but it's everything I can do in my attempt to avoid installing Flash.


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