Chinese input in English environment
 

Hi folks,

Slackware-11.0
KDE 3.5


Please advise;
1)
How to read Traditional/Simplified Chinese in English environment

2)
How to add Traditional Chinese input in English environment


I have been googling around. What I can find was to change it to Chinese environment with menu in Chinese.

TIA


B.R.
satimis

See here: Multilingual Text Support on Linux.

Short form: Make sure you're running a UTF-8 language environment, then install scim and a supported Chinese IME program.

Look at my response in this thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=520151

I have not had to do any input, so I can't answer this one.

Hi David the H.

Tks for your advice and link.

The above refers to Debian. The files mentioned there can't be found on slamd64-11.0. I made full installation of slamd64-11.0

ls /usr/X11/lib/X11/locale/# slackpkg search scimscim is not on the repositories.

Where can I get scim. TIA

B.R.
satimis

Hi diskoe,

Tks for your URL.

Where can I downloamd zh-arphicttf-2.11.tar.gz?

The sites "ftp://freebsd.sinica.edu.tw/pub/keith/" seems not working. Tks.


B.R.
satimis

Google is your friend. There are many FreeBSD mirrors.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/po...tf-2.11.tar.gz

Hi titopoquito

Tks.

satimis

Hi diskoe,

# which mkfontscale# which mkfontdirThey are not installed.

I suppose mkfontscale, mkfontdir, etc. coming from xorg-x11-font-utils

# slackpkg search xorg-x11-font-utilsnot available on repositories.

Where can I find the package xorg-x11-font-utils for slamd64. Googling did not find it. Tks.


B.R.
satimis

You find those applications in /usr/X11R6/bin -- in stock Slackware and in Slamd64.

Suppose you need an English environment with Chinese support.

For chinese display
1. install kdei (in slackware-11.0-CD3)
2. install fonts. There are many options.
(a) Copy TTF fonts from Windows to Slackware (sim*.ttf)
(b) Download TTF fonts from http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/arphic/
(c) Download WQY fonts from
http://wqy.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/enindex.cgi

Install Chinese fonts as TTF fonts as other post discussed.
Then you can read Chinese without problems.

For Chinese input
3. Install SCIM,
4. Install IME engine
Configure SCIM
5. setup locale
or if you would like to set up locale globally, edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh if you are using bash.
6. setup environment variables
7. invoke Chinese input method. From a console, type
8. If you edit file in kedit or kate, you can hit Ctrl+SPC to active pinyin input.

I cannot active "Pinyin Input" in vim or emacs. If you have a solution for vim and emacs editor, please post here.

I have created scim.Slackbuild, scim-pinyin.SlackBuild, scim-fcitx.SlackBuild, and *-.tgz for my own use. I don't know how to upload.

Hi,

I followed your instructions, and everything seems okay, just that when I press Ctl-Space nothing happens. (I have tried to do Chinese input in the past, and always get stuck on this point.) Can you help me? Is there any other way to invoke the input method other than Ctl-Space?

Thanks,
Brian

Hi lchxr,


Tks for your advice.

Following diskoe's advisce above Traditional Chinese can be displayed without problem.

Now I'm prepared to install Traditional Chinese input

IIRC I made full installation of slamd64-11.0 except Game. Is there any way to recheck them?

I have scim-1.4.5.tar.gz download on the box.

What package shall I download for Cangjie and Easy Traditional Chinese input? Where can I find them? Tks

Do I need to install;
scim-gtk2-immodules
scim-modules-socket
scim-tables-zh

If YES where can I download them. TIA


B.R.
satimis

This can usually happen. Please check your locale and XMODIFIERS
You can also try LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 to see if it helps.

No, to my knowledge. But you can run scim-setup to change the hot-key.

You need scim-tables, download from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/sci...s-0.5.7.tar.gz

I am not sure if scim-gtk2-immodules and scim-modules-socket are necessary. I have installed Dropline Gnome. In my Slackware 11.0 I have

Hi lchxr,


Tks for your advice and URL. Performed following steps;

# ls /etc/gtk-2.0Download
scim-1.4.5.tar.gz
scim-tables-0.5.7.tar.gz

Ran
# tar zxf scim-1.4.5.tar.gz
# tar zxf scim-tables-0.5.7.tar.gz

# cd /path/to/scim-1.4.5
# ./configure --prefer=/usr
# cd /path/to/scim-tables-0.5.7
# ./configure --prefer=/usr
Both went through without complaint.

# export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
# export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"
# export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim
# export QT_IM_MODULE=xim
# scim -d# find / -name libscim
No printout

Which package provides "libscim-1.0.so.8"? Where can I download it? Tks.

What is the difference between
- running "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8"
and
- adding it on /etc/profile.d/lang.sh

Tks


B.R.
satimis

Have you done make && make install?

Hi lchxr,

slamd64-11.0

Sorry I could not trace the record. Therefore I did them again.

bash-3.1# cd scim-1.4.5
bash-3.1# ./configure --prefix=/usr
bash-3.1# make && make install

bash-3.1# cd ..
bash-3.1# cd scim-tables-0.5.7
bash-3.1# ./configure --prefix=/usr
bash-3.1# make && make install

Both went through without complaint.

bash-3.1# export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
bash-3.1# export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM"
bash-3.1# export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim
bash-3.1# export QT_IM_MODULE=xim
All went through without complaint

bash-3.1# scim -dOn Xfce4 desktop started kedit

[Ctrl]+[space] no effect. Chinese editing did not start.

started kwrite. Result was the same.

B.R.
satimis

no idea at the moment. I will post here if I get the result.

Hi, satimis,

How do you start kedit, from command line in xterm or from xfce desktop menu?

Because you export environment variables manually from the console, only applications from the same shell can see these variables, so you need to start kedit/kate/kwrite from command line in the same console. If you start editors from the desktop menu, the editors will not see these variables.

To overcome this, I set the LANG variable globally in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh (or /etc/profile.d/lang.csh if you are using csh)
Also I put these lines in my ~/.bashrc
Lastly, I create ~/.bash_profile, and put these lines.
For autostart scim in xfce, I create an autostart file called startscim and put it into $HOME/Desktop/Autostart.
Make it executable
Then restart X, you will be able to trigger Chinese input with Ctrl+space in the following applications.
1. In Firefox when the cursor is in the address bar.
2. In Google when the cursor is in the search box.
3. when the cursor is in the any other input box.
4. In editors such as gedit, kate, kedit.

However, in many KDE applications, some of the Chinese characteres are not viewed correctly, they are displayed as 'dot' or 'box'. My experience is change the font from KDE control center to 'sans serif'.

IMO, Gnome has better Chinese support than KDE.

Hope this helps.

lchxr

Hi lchxr,

Tried both
1) On xterm/Terminal
2) On Xfce4 desktop


Performed following steps as root
(Still fail unable to start Chinese enditing. [Ctrl]+[Space] without effect.)

# nano /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
copied "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" on it

Remark: this is not an empty file already having following line on it;
export LC_COLLATE=C


# nano ~/.bashrc
copied following lines on it
# nano ~/.bash_profile
copied following lines on it
# nano $HOME/Desktop/startscim
copied following lines on it
# chmod +x ~/Desktop/startscim


Restarted X

1)
Started Terminal and then kedit
Pressed [Ctrl]+[Space] without effect

2)
Started kedit on Xfce4 desktop
Pressed [Ctrl]+[Space] also without effect


Noted with tks. I'm running Xfce4 desktop


I did it before "adding Chinese editing" on Xfce4 running Ubuntu as OS. It needed;
scim-gtk2-immodules
scim-modules-socket
scim-tables-zh

To edit Chinese,
started Terminal --> Right click --> select "Chinese Input" --> on Terminal evoke kedit/OOOfice/etc.

B.R.
satimis