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Old 10-03-2018, 09:55 AM   #91
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Hey, Evanston WY isn't *that* far away, is it? Used to make that run all the time.
Neither is Malad, Idaho. Border towns are too risky.

The problem is unless you are only buying a single pack or something you draw suspicion. Loading up on a stock of alcohol as a Utahn runs the risk of the clerks notifying the Idaho or Wyoming highway patrol.. who in turn notify the Utah Highway Patrol.... who will be happily waiting to seize all of it and give you a ticket for illegally bringing it across the state line.

I'm not kidding.

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Like here in Minnesota, beer is only 3.2% if you get your beer from the grocery store. Strong beer is available in Utah from the state-run liquor stores.
I've since re-examined the state run liquor stores. The beer selection is very small, the only beers at the two near where I live is.. Bud Lite.. Busch Lite.. Mike's Hard, Smirnoff.. that kind of stuff.

They don't carry any beer I like.

I wish I could buy from the gas station at Hill AFB.. the selection there is great. Unfortunately they only let civilians buy soda and junk food lol.

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Old 10-03-2018, 12:35 PM   #92
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Neither is Malad, Idaho. Border towns are too risky.

The problem is unless you are only buying a single pack or something you draw suspicion. Loading up on a stock of alcohol as a Utahn runs the risk of the clerks notifying the Idaho or Wyoming highway patrol.. who in turn notify the Utah Highway Patrol.... who will be happily waiting to seize all of it and give you a ticket for illegally bringing it across the state line.

I'm not kidding.
So, you're not allowed to bring it over the state line? I've heard of Highway Patrol getting people for fireworks, but never alcohol.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 01:50 PM   #93
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So, you're not allowed to bring it over the state line? I've heard of Highway Patrol getting people for fireworks, but never alcohol.
Yeah.. https://abc.utah.gov/laws/law_faqs.html

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May I bring alcoholic beverages into Utah?

No!... ...Private individuals may not lawfully import or transport them into the state....Possession of liquor products not purchased from the DABC is strictly prohibited..
I bet the only reason they don't try to stop people coming off military installations is to avoid a state-federal spat.


In practice I don't know how often people really get busted for this.

This guy: https://www.ksl.com/?sid=33200194&nid=148
Only got hit because the officer pulled him over for an unrelated reason.. got a Class B misdemeanor for it. What a monster.

I'm too paranoid about getting charged with anything due to the nature of my job.. so I won't attempt it.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 02:23 PM   #94
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I'm going to bring this thread over to some good beer - I'm on the Guinness Foreign Extra this evening. While cooking and posting via Slackware, of course. Have a good one, all.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:27 PM   #95
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Neither is Malad, Idaho. Border towns are too risky.
Ah, Malad. I used to have to make regular trips between California and Minnesota and always took the Malad -> Oasis route over the Holbrook pass. Nothing like missing all that SLC traffic. Worst in the United States in my opinion.
 
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:31 PM   #96
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Nothing like missing all that SLC traffic. Worst in the United States in my opinion.
If this was before the construction was completed for the 2002 Olympics, I totally agree with you. Otherwise it has improved a lot (but still has crap moments). That being said, I would take driving here any day over driving on the east coast, especially the stretch of I-95 from Richmond, VA to DC. That road was always horrible and even with the extra lanes once you get near DC, it was almost always a massive delay. When we would travel from New Jersey back to our home in Newport News, we would choose to take a longer route that had usually $20-$30 in tolls just to avoid the DC area and I-95.

But traffic in SLC certainly was worse than I remembered it being when I left here back in 2007, but I still love being back
 
Old 10-03-2018, 07:40 PM   #97
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If this was before the construction was completed for the 2002 Olympics, I totally agree with you. Otherwise it has improved a lot (but still has crap moments). That being said, I would take driving here any day over driving on the east coast, especially the stretch of I-95 from Richmond, VA to DC. That road was always horrible and even with the extra lanes once you get near DC, it was almost always a massive delay. When we would travel from New Jersey back to our home in Newport News, we would choose to take a longer route that had usually $20-$30 in tolls just to avoid the DC area and I-95.

But traffic in SLC certainly was worse than I remembered it being when I left here back in 2007, but I still love being back
Cape May/Lewes Ferry, avoids all of that (wait, perhaps that's what you were referring to). Includes a nice scenic drive as well. That stretch from Alexandria, VA through Maryland and Delaware is rough unless its Sun. morning.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:46 PM   #98
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Cape May/Lewes Ferry, avoids all of that (wait, perhaps that's what you were referring to). Includes a nice scenic drive as well. That stretch from Alexandria, VA through Maryland and Delaware is rough unless its Sun. morning.
We would head about 45 minutes south to take the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel north out of the Norfolk area and then take Highway 13 all the way up to Dover, then Highway 1 to get to the Delaware Memorial Bridge, which would then get us on the Jersey Turnpike and then take the exit to Atlantic City (our friends lived about halfway between the Turnpike and Atlantic City). I've never taken a vehicle on a ferry, and I doubt the schedule would've worked well for us since we were always traveling Friday nights since we'd go after we'd get off work and heading back Sunday evening/night.
 
Old 10-03-2018, 10:58 PM   #99
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Back in the "good old days" I once spent a three day weekend in Cape May. I can't remember if it was a Memorial Day or Labor Day weekend, but there I was in a Marine uniform handing out recruitment material somewhere along the beach. The U.S. was escalating the war in Vietnam, but I don't remember one negative comment from anyone passing by. I liked Cape May and Atlantic City, but I'm sure things have changed in the over 50 years since I was last in either place.
 
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Old 10-04-2018, 03:39 AM   #100
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Is it me or are there quite a few people from the military here? How interesting, I suppose there is something about Slackware that particularly appeals to the intelligent, technically-minded [forgive the vagueness of this comment, I know nothing about the military].
 
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Old 10-04-2018, 10:35 AM   #101
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there I was in a Marine uniform handing out recruitment material somewhere along the beach.
I'm actually a recruiter right now for the Air Force. And that's a brilliant idea! "Boss, I'm headed to the beach... to uh, find people to join. Yeah, that's it!"

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I suppose there is something about Slackware that particularly appeals to the intelligent, technically-minded [forgive the vagueness of this comment, I know nothing about the military].
Hey, I'll take it! But if the stereotypes are to be believed, Army and Marines shouldn't be using Slackware (I do joke... we have some great people in all the branches).

But I was into Slackware before I ever even thought about joining the Air Force. My buddy (who introduced me to Slackware after distro-hopping) had an uncle in the AF and that uncle suggested my buddy should join, then my buddy then suggested that I talk to a recruiter as well. 11 years later, here I am, having lived in Texas, Germany, Virginia, and finally back home in Utah over the course of my time in.
 
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Old 10-04-2018, 12:03 PM   #102
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I'm actually a recruiter right now for the Air Force.....
Back during Vietnam the Air Force had people standing in line trying to get in and/or get their name on the waiting list. I'm sure you know why.

Over the years since I had the opportunity to share an office with a retired Air Force pilot. On the wall next to his desk hung a large photo of the last aircraft he commanded. It was autographed by the crew and several others and in a lower corner were two Distinguished Flying Crosses*. When things were slow we would swap "war stories" and I gained a tremendous amount of respect for the Air Force as a result.

All members of the various branches of the Armed Forces have willingly put their lives on the line and are deserving of our respect.

IMHO, the most unsung branch of the services is the U.S. Coast Guard. They put themselves at risk almost every day doing dangerous rescues of citizens who have managed to get themselves in precarious situations or chasing drug runners, etc.

Semper Fi.



*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distin...ited_States%29

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Old 10-04-2018, 03:42 PM   #103
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Back during Vietnam the Air Force had people standing in line trying to get in and/or get their name on the waiting list. I'm sure you know why.

Over the years since I had the opportunity to share an office with a retired Air Force pilot. On the wall next to his desk hung a large photo of the last aircraft he commanded. It was autographed by the crew and several others and in a lower corner were two Distinguished Flying Crosses*. When things were slow we would swap "war stories" and I gained a tremendous amount of respect for the Air Force as a result.

All members of the various branches of the Armed Forces have willingly put their lives on the line and are deserving of our respect.

IMHO, the most unsung branch of the services is the U.S. Coast Guard. They put themselves at risk almost every day doing dangerous rescues of citizens who have managed to get themselves in precarious situations or chasing drug runners, etc.

Semper Fi.



*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distin...ited_States%29

Past Navy/Marine Corps FMF Corpsman. I agree about the Coast Guard, they are often overlooked/forgotten/taken for granted.

My respect for Slackware users grows daily.
 
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We would head about 45 minutes south to take the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel north out of the Norfolk area and then take Highway 13 all the way up to Dover, then Highway 1 to get to the Delaware Memorial Bridge, which would then get us on the Jersey Turnpike and then take the exit to Atlantic City (our friends lived about halfway between the Turnpike and Atlantic City). I've never taken a vehicle on a ferry, and I doubt the schedule would've worked well for us since we were always traveling Friday nights since we'd go after we'd get off work and heading back Sunday evening/night.
That route does add a bit to the trip, if you continue on 13 to Lewes Delaware, the ferry will drop you off in Cape May NJ. But thats neither here nor there. Nice road trip though.

Cheers Slackware (now we didn't hijack the thread).
 
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Cheers Slackware (now we didn't hijack the thread).
We didn't, but I'm about to - congrats on your 1000th post [people are going to start thinking I'm stalking their post counts, I'm really not]. Carry on.
 
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