hmmm....

1: I just looked, and nobody named "Pat" even works here, much less buys/configures/maintains any of the systems

2: Web server/mail server on one system, desktop on another. Just an old sig/outdated webpage, bud.

Anyhow I'm done with ya.. Obviously you are just another one of them ignorant
trolls with the talent of a nose hair that have absolutely no clue as to what
you are doing or what you are talking about. For future reference, follow the
advice of your fellow #Linux people and "RTFM" You might not have this much
trouble fixing a supposedly "Broken" system that really isn't broken. Of course
you would know this if you thought for yourself instead of letting the slack
zealots think for ya... Good day

Exactly which rc and conf files are you referring to? ...and more importantly, which distro are you talking about? It can't be Slackware.

Dropline installs/modifies *no* configuration files that it didn't bring in itself as a part of the related package, which it does in the exact same way that Slackware does...

The ONLY exception to this rule is rc.4, which is slightly modified so that GDM is looked for in /usr/sbin/ instead of /usr/bin. Being that it's a sysadmin-type binary, and that it's _normal installation location_ is /usr/sbin, this is a place where Dropline is probably slightly more correct than Slackware (god's forbid!). Even if you were to remove Dropline and then install another GDM, the script will *still* behave properly with that modification in place, since we don't even take out the later invocation of it as /usr/bin/gdm.

Beyond that the only thing else in there that's ever been modified was rc.local, which I *personally* handled fixing recently so that we don't have to mess with it for hal/messagebus to function properly. Dropline now drops a few files into the sysvinit directories, and if you don't like those, *complain to Pat to remove rc.sysvinit*. At the moment there's just one lonely little stanza in rc.local to kill off stale PAM lockfiles which might prevent console ownership from taking place when someone logs in at the console. These lockfiles are only left behind when you accidentally power the machine off while a user is logged in, so they're not much of an issue in any case.

Now... Stop talking through your hat. Should you *actually* manage to mention a *valid* problem, all that's going to happen is that it's going to get fixed.

Ah, yes.

"Profanity. The last refuge of the truly ignorant".

Just accept, buddy boy, that I will never accept Dropline.
My call
My system(s)
I do run gnome, just not Dropline.
My call
My system(s)

Again, people keep claiming Dropline modifies their configuration files, but they never seem to be able to say which ones.

Installing Dropline means getting Dropline's default configuration for Dropline's packages. Base Slackware behaves no differently in this respect--so either quit trying to make this out like it's some terrible thing or perhaps start running `find / -name "*.conf" -exec rm {} \;` after installing Slackware just to be sure that Pat can't supply you with any configuration files you don't like either.

Yep Uh huh.

Isn't it nice when others make your point for you?

BTW, I never had a "Problem"

I wanted to install a old version of gnome.

I did install it, it wasn't for me, so I uninstalled it with pkgtool. No leftovers, and I'm happy.

That's all well and good but if you're going to go around talking trash about other people's work, you'd better be prepared to back it up with FACTS instead of grammatical criticisms.

So tell us... Exactly how did we break things by adding clean , functional stanzas to rc.local? Again, this is no different from the way Patrick deploys configuration items when you install Slackware packages.

Your _point_ was that we were breaking things. I'm telling you outright that you are very very wrong. Do you have any relevant FACTS to support your ridiculous claims?

Fine, it's your system, run it as you may. Just don't be spreading
fudd about Dropline unless you have basis to do so. Your arguements
are lackluster at best and like I said, have no basis behind them.
Anyone who actually does run dropline will tell you that you are
full of it. I've tried gnome on many other distros and to be quite
honest, none of them seem to measure up to what the dlg guys have
going. To take it one step further, I've seen people who use
distros like debian, fedora, etc.. asking for ports of dropline to
their various systems. So please if you prefer to use a half
functional vanilla gnome with the so called udev that works with
your kernel, which I don't know how since udev needs rebuilt to
even work with new hal/dbus, then be my guest but stop the constant
trolling until you can come up with a legitimate arguement as to
why dlg is bad for slack or how it breaks your system.

My system, my call
No Dropline will ever be installed again on any of my systems.
I will admit, the dropline install i did was probably an older version of the software. But after trying MANY times to get it off my system, I was fustrated with all the bits and pieces leftover.
It may not be that way now, but it was then. Sorry, but never again.

So still no actual facts, I see.

As a troll you really, really suck.

I suggest you read `man pkgtool`.

Sorry, guys.

Calling me a "troll" doesn't affect me in the least.

I won't install Dropline ever again.

Easy as that.

Again, thanks. I guess that's a compliment (You may wish to read up on double negatives)

So far, I have seen no compelling argument on the pros of installing Dropline, with the exception of evilDagmar saying Which ALSO strengthens my feelings on Dropline adding to files/configs.
Sorry, I just don't like any program doing that.

As I've stated before, Others may like Dropline.

I don't.

I also don't use Yahoo Messenger, or MSN on my Windows boxes, for the same reasons. They add "usabilty features" that I don't want.

Just deal with the fact that not everybody wants or needs your software. I don't expect everybody to agree with my reasons. They are my opinions, based on my own experience with the software. Sometimes, it just comes down to choice, and I choose not to use it.

Amazingly, you're right. You were talking nonsense from the moment you started, regardless of whether or not I said repeatedly that you were talking nonsense.

Amazing. You can't even use pointless criticisms of grammar correctly. ...but then again, I think we've already sufficiently established that you're a substandard troll on the best of days.

Well you have fun with your pre-2000 technology then. Don't stop on my account.

Generally, when people don't want things added to their system, they don't install the packages in the first place. How you expected to both install new packages and not install new packages at the same time I can only attribute to possible heavy-metal poisoning in your local groundwater. Call your elected representatives to inquire about that.

That's fine because we don't ship those, nor are we likely ever to.

I have no problem with people not needing or wanting Gnome. What I have a problem with is trolls making entirely incorrect statements about the correctness or functionality of Dropline. You're welcome to maintain as many delusions as you like--just don't put them out in public places where I have to deal with the results later or you will have me in your face all over again.

I think this thread has usefully run it's course. Take the arguments offline guys.