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Old 11-01-2018, 01:35 AM   #31
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FWIW, it was impossible for me to stop until some switch went off in my head. Even then, I had to reset that switch twice.
My experience exactly - I had "quit" and restarted several times before then, but I knew when the switch flipped that it was final, if still not easy... the "switch" might be from having a desire, to having a strong reason, but it is a definite loud "click" between the ears when it happens!

We are probably OT, but at this point I am not sure what on-topic would be for this thread, "(former) pipe-smokers named Bob"? Hey! I qualify!

Point being, encouragement for others looking for the "quit" switch, find it, flip it if you can!

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Old 11-01-2018, 03:36 AM   #32
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Maybe our "BOB" of Slackware should quit piping?

I know i had bounced back once, before i quit for good (2002 ... 2007), and 2nd time i "knew" it's for good.

I concur to Richard, the "easy quitters" are at disadvantage for permanent quitting:

they simply can't feed on the scare of then next quitting to remain off.

The "hard quitters", once commenced the quit, are more likely to remain clean.

So, how about our Slackware mascot? should he turn the pipe upside down?
 
Old 11-01-2018, 05:49 AM   #33
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If you aren't an American, you shouldn't (and probably don't) give a shit about it. Most Americans looking at it would have an opinion and it would probably be a political one.
I didn't have the foggiest idea what this is about so I looked it up. After about two minutes of perusing material on Brett Kavanaugh, I concluded that no, I don't give a stuff at all. You are correct

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So, how about our Slackware mascot? should he turn the pipe upside down?
Most definitely not. In Turkey smoking is banned on TV and if they show an old film [by which I mean anything from the 20th century] which has smoking in it, the cigarette will be blurred out. In the interests of public health, of course.

However, to say we live in times of increasing censorship is not necessarily true. Over here in the UK, the British Board of Film Classification is getting more lenient with regards to what it will let through. Additionally, many 'video nasties' of the 1980s which were banned have either been released with cuts or had their cuts waived. We do have a government who are currently trying to restrict access to pornographic material on the internet, but their attempts to do so have mostly failed, which is a good thing. Once one starts going down that road it's a slippery slope to banning as much material as possible in the interests of public decency and 'protecting minors' when really it's just an easy way to canvas votes and control public media.

Especially for a distribution like Slackware, whose users are some of the most free-thinking, old school and I would like to think, non-censorious, to ban Bob's pipe would be drastically out of character, ironic, ominous and would deprive him of one of the chief apparatuses of his identity. Let him smoke his pipe, I'd give him a damn rack full of them if I could.

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Old 11-01-2018, 11:49 AM   #34
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The only thing that I found offensive about the original post was due to my view through the lens of the recent hearings for a US Supreme Court justice.

If you aren't an American, you shouldn't (and probably don't) give a shit about it. Most Americans looking at it would have an opinion and it would probably be a political one.
It was a big story here for months. No prizes for guessing which side the media took.

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Old 11-01-2018, 08:54 PM   #35
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To remove the pipe, is the same as removing a statue, rewriting history, on and on. Marijuana is now legal in Canada (do not ask) so maybe he is smoking some pot. If a Native here it could be a peace pipe. It is not up to us to decide the present political interpretation of something that far back where it was harmless and just a part of a culture.

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Old 11-02-2018, 02:18 AM   #36
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may i notice that it never was harmless, only perceived as such, and only for a while?
 
Old 11-03-2018, 01:48 PM   #37
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It did no real harm, only perceived harm. Which can be as harmful are real harm. By harmless I meant real, physical, harm where it hurts somebody. I see your point though. Though I would like to think that an image of a pipe is harmless, or it is extremely weak to be hurt by a neutral image. One can say it promotes an unhealthy choice but considering everything around us unhealthy it seems a minor thing to focus on.
 
Old 11-03-2018, 02:54 PM   #38
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"Bob"'s pipe has nothing to do with tobacco.

"Nothing is more central to "Bob" than his pipe, which is said to be filled with the mysterious substance known as habafropzipulops or "frop," a drug which may contain either mystical, hallucinogenic, or entheogenic powers. It could also be simply filled with marijuana, though Church Officials have taken pains to state that this is not the case."
 
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Old 11-03-2018, 03:17 PM   #39
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Just great!

It's (supposedly?) filled with conscience shifting agent(s)?



While i realize it's a joke and has nothing to do with any reality, I remain quite reserved towards the humor. And accept to be quite the only one in that regard.

But I still find Slackware the best distro and it's spirit the closest to what like the best.

Let's just call me odd, okay?
 
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Old 11-03-2018, 03:31 PM   #40
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Just great! It's (supposedly?) filled with conscience shifting agent(s)?
I'm sure they're natural, whatever they are. Such agents are only frowned upon because the authorities haven't found a way to tax them.

Alternatively, Bob can move to Canada.

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Old 11-03-2018, 05:14 PM   #41
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Sure, move to Canada, feed our government monopoly... :-p

It is really bad it has been legalized. We had a sub-culture free of gov and corporations and the gov figured a way to get their hands in it too.

Maybe Bob can sell us some of this mystical substance for long *nix sessions.
 
Old 11-03-2018, 07:10 PM   #42
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Wink

Enjoy frop as a way to get your Slack back from the Cliques Of Normals Secretly Planning Insidious Rituals Aimed at Controlling You.
http://subgenius.wikia.com/wiki/Frop
The fandom shows a photo of a "typical frop farm". LOL
Thanks Pat!
 
Old 11-04-2018, 04:17 AM   #43
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I'm sure they're natural, whatever they are. Such agents are only frowned upon because the authorities haven't found a way to tax them.

Alternatively, Bob can move to Canada.
Natural you say?

So are poisonous snakes and hallucinogenic mushrooms

Also major extinction events are also considered as natural acts

So there goes if its natural, it must be healthy to the bin.
 
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And we use the venom from poisonous snakes for medicine. Nothing wrong with hallucinogenic mushrooms. It is about whether you abuse something or not.
 
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Old 11-04-2018, 01:42 PM   #45
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And we use the venom from poisonous snakes for medicine. Nothing wrong with hallucinogenic mushrooms. It is about whether you abuse something or not.
Psilocybin is also a great cure for headaches where not only does it prevent them for prolonged periods of time, it can also outright abort them. Sure it might be overkill for a normal migraine, but for people who suffer from cluster headaches its life saving!
 
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