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Old 10-18-2016, 01:06 AM   #46
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observationalist?
I assume that you think that is a real knee slapper.

Discount anything that I post as you wish; when ponce (the first person to reply) tells you that the solution to your problem is to do X and you reply with (more or less) "Really? I think Y. Sod your X!", then you head almost immediately to my ignore list.

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Old 10-18-2016, 06:22 AM   #47
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I assume that you think that is a real knee slapper.

Discount anything that I post as you wish; when ponce (the first person to reply) tells you that the solution to your problem is to do X and you reply with (more or less) "Really? I think Y. Sod your X!", then you head almost immediately to my ignore list.
no, your assumption is wrong, it was just an observation on my part put into a form of a simple yes or no question to eliminate any assumptions on my part. It should have been taken as a rhetorical question - actually.

further more that was not an actual "solution" to my problem, it was only one, and it was a copy paste off of the post install of Slackware web page, I was looking for a precise solution. Not a general add the user to every single one of these groups for the just in case scenario, and here you are now telling me that ponce is GOD in here. Do as he says or I'm heading to your ignore list?

maybe that is where you put ponce on your list of people to obey without question.
then expect me and others to just eat off the plate that he offers without question to what it is he is feeding me?
Blind obedience to another man, else suffer the consequences?

answer me these questions.

what does a floppy have to do with Bluetooth?
Does adding my user to floppy group caused the Bluetooth to work?
so why add myself to that Group when I am seeking the truth in how to fix Bluetooth not access a floppy drive?

etc...

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Old 10-18-2016, 07:35 AM   #48
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no, your assumption is wrong, it was just an observation on my part put into a form of a simple yes or no question to eliminate any assumptions. It should have been taken as a rhetorical question - actually.

further more that was not an actual solution to my problem, it was a copy paste off of the post install of Slackware web page, I was looking for a precise solution. Not a general add the user to every single one of these groups for the just in case scenario, and here you are now telling me that ponce is GOD in here. Do as he says or I'm heading to your ignore list?

maybe that is where you put ponce on your list of people to obey without question.
then expect me and others to just eat off the plate that he offers without question to what it is he is feeding me?
Blind obedience to another man?

answer me these questions.

what does a floppy have to do with Bluetooth?
Does adding my user to floppy group caused the Bluetooth to work?
so why add myself to that Group?
Wow, you can be difficult sometimes. No, you didn't need to add yourself to all those groups to get your problem to work, but it was obvious you hadn't added yourself to any of those groups. ponce's post was the solution to your current problem, as well as the solution to other future problems you may have by not being a part of the recommended groups in Slackware. For someone who was bound and determined to get their regular user full root permissions using sudo, I'm wondering why you are so against having your user be added to the recommended groups in Slackware?

This has nothing to do with ponce being a "god", but it does have to do with several knowledgeable LQ members providing you fixes that you flat out ignore. In poince's post, he even specifically stated you could probably get by with only two groups (plugdev and lp), which would've solved your problem without adding you to your un-precious floppy group (what is the big deal about adding yourself to that anyway?).

Then post #8 by drgibbon also recommended the same thing -- adding yourself to the recommended groups -- which you also ignored. Then, in post #10, I told you that you needed the lp group for bluetooth, even citing the source of where that group is specified (both in Slackware and the actual source). I also echoed ponce's earlier suggestion of the lp and plugdev as well as echoing the suggestions by ponce and drgibbon to just add yourself to all the recommended groups.

This thread could've been done at that point (which only echoed the statements in the #2 post), but it's continued on to now 47 posts (48 after I submit this). You didn't even get the problem solved until post #34. This seems to be a pattern with your posts, which is why Richard Cranium posted what he did. If you were more willing to take the advice you're asking for, your experience here would likely be much better.
 
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:41 AM   #49
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Wow, you can be difficult sometimes. No, you didn't need to add yourself to all those groups to get your problem to work, but it was obvious you hadn't added yourself to any of those groups. ponce's post was the solution to your current problem, as well as the solution to other future problems you may have by not being a part of the recommended groups in Slackware. For someone who was bound and determined to get their regular user full root permissions using sudo, I'm wondering why you are so against having your user be added to the recommended groups in Slackware?

This has nothing to do with ponce being a "god", but it does have to do with several knowledgeable LQ members providing you fixes that you flat out ignore. In poince's post, he even specifically stated you could probably get by with only two groups (plugdev and lp), which would've solved your problem without adding you to your un-precious floppy group (what is the big deal about adding yourself to that anyway?).

Then post #8 by drgibbon also recommended the same thing -- adding yourself to the recommended groups -- which you also ignored. Then, in post #10, I told you that you needed the lp group for bluetooth, even citing the source of where that group is specified (both in Slackware and the actual source). I also echoed ponce's earlier suggestion of the lp and plugdev as well as echoing the suggestions by ponce and drgibbon to just add yourself to all the recommended groups.

This thread could've been done at that point (which only echoed the statements in the #2 post), but it's continued on to now 47 posts (48 after I submit this). You didn't even get the problem solved until post #34. This seems to be a pattern with your posts, which is why Richard Cranium posted what he did. If you were more willing to take the advice you're asking for, your experience here would likely be much better.
welll excasseee me I am just a living personality disorder you are perfectly correct in everything you say and do. consider this post closed. get on with your life, have you nothing more important to do at the moment?
 
Old 10-18-2016, 07:49 AM   #50
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welll excasseee me I am just a living personality disorder you are perfectly correct in everything you say and do. consider this post closed. get on with your life, have you nothing more important to do at the moment?
We're trying to help you... This whole thread has been people trying to help you. Don't misconstrue our constructive criticism for rudeness. We're trying to explain the situation and show why you're making this so difficult. Hopefully you're willing to take the criticism and try to improve...
 
Old 12-26-2016, 03:27 PM   #51
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Hey,

I have similar problem. I'm trying to make bluetooth headset to run. So far I was able to successfully pair and connect then run (play sound) but only as root. Then the conclusion is that the problem is somewhere in permissions. I've read all the thread here (omg, so much off topic :/). The solution was to add regular user to all default Slackware groups. So I did it, unfortunately w/o success.
I work on Slackware64 14.2 with BlueZ 5 then only pulseaudio possible for bt audio devices. I run pulseaudio with '--start' flag for every user. Then as my regular user as well. After paired and connected headset in bluetoothctl as root I can see headset in pacmd 'list-sinks' but only as root. Regular user can't see it.

My regular user has groups as follows:

Code:
bash-4.3$ groups
users lp floppy audio video cdrom pulse plugdev power netdev scanner mntfs
 
Old 12-26-2016, 03:48 PM   #52
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Hey,

I have similar problem. I'm trying to make bluetooth headset to run. So far I was able to successfully pair and connect then run (play sound) but only as root. Then the conclusion is that the problem is somewhere in permissions. I've read all the thread here (omg, so much off topic :/). The solution was to add regular user to all default Slackware groups. So I did it, unfortunately w/o success.
I work on Slackware64 14.2 with BlueZ 5 then only pulseaudio possible for bt audio devices. I run pulseaudio with '--start' flag for every user. Then as my regular user as well. After paired and connected headset in bluetoothctl as root I can see headset in pacmd 'list-sinks' but only as root. Regular user can't see it.

My regular user has groups as follows:

Code:
bash-4.3$ groups
users lp floppy audio video cdrom pulse plugdev power netdev scanner mntfs
look for a group that is associated with bluetooth, then add your user to it.

UNfortunately I am in Windows right now dealing with iTunes and hating life ,(until I get back to Linux)

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Old 12-26-2016, 04:04 PM   #53
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look for a group that is associated with bluetooth, then add your user to it.
Sure, I really wish to, but which are they or how can I check it?
 
Old 12-26-2016, 04:08 PM   #54
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Sure, I really wish to, but which are they or how can I check it?
Code:
cat /etc/group
 
Old 12-26-2016, 04:16 PM   #55
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cat /etc/group
Can you tell me where in the /etc/groups is written which of those groups are used by bluetooth?
 
Old 12-26-2016, 04:29 PM   #56
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Can you tell me where in the /etc/groups is written which of those groups are used by bluetooth?
OK I am back in Slack, I usally run a different Linux so my memory has to be updated,
do this
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sudo chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth
then run this command and see what happens,
Code:
sudo /etc/rc.d/rc.bluetooth start
if nothing then reboot, and let me know.

these are the groups I belong to,
Code:
userx@slacko/etc/rc.d\>> groups
userx lp wheel floppy audio video cdrom plugdev power netdev scanner
and I am getting the bluetooth Icon in my app area in xfce4

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Old 12-26-2016, 04:48 PM   #57
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I already did everything you have wrote. And as I mentioned bt works by itself but only on root.

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and I am getting the bluetooth Icon in my app area in xfce4
Great, but have you tried to use it with any bt device as regular user?
 
Old 12-26-2016, 04:51 PM   #58
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I already did everything you have wrote. And as I mentioned bt works by itself but only on root.



Great, but have you tried to use it with any bt device as regular user?
I belong to wheel which is sudo ,,
which it shows you so not belong to,

I am no longer in slack. Hold on and let me reboot and see if I can pair to a phone real quick, and if this does not give you a sloution, then post a seperate question and list every thing you've done to your system in this endiver so other more aquanted with Slack can assist you as well.

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Old 12-26-2016, 04:57 PM   #59
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I already did everything you have wrote. And as I mentioned bt works by itself but only on root.



Great, but have you tried to use it with any bt device as regular user?
I just paired my phone with bluetooth in Slack in my user, with wheel group in xfce4 using blueman/bluez

I think because you are not in wheel it wants root privileges, so it might be a plokit issue if you do not want to add your user to wheel. if that be the case then you'll have to post another question as I said before asking for help with that.

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Old 12-27-2016, 09:16 AM   #60
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I think because you are not in wheel it wants root privileges, so it might be a plokit issue if you do not want to add your user to wheel. if that be the case then you'll have to post another question as I said before asking for help with that.
The wheel group has nothing to do with bluetooth. By default, it isn't used anywhere in Slackware unless you manually set up sudo that way, but even then, you still have to invoke sudo to get any benefit from the wheel group.

@husarz, it probably would've been better to open your own post, but here goes... Have you logged out and logged back in since making any group assignments? They don't take effect until you re-login.

Also, why are you manually running pulseaudio? There should be no reason to run that as it should all be handled automatically. Do you have any pre-14.2 .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf files? If so, they should be removed (or renamed) so pulse can work as expected. Have you tried a new user to see if the problem is related to your user's configs?

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