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Old 10-02-2003, 06:54 PM   #1
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black screen when try startx

I have installed 9.1 and it went OK. It boots to the console which I like but when I try to startx the screen goes dead black and stays there. ALT + F keys to switch consoles does not work nor does CTL + ALT + BACKSPACE

It is an ATI RAGE PRO video card and I have run the xf86config and set it to standard VGA, VESA, and the ATI generic and it is still the same.

There is some messages output to the console just before the screen goes blank but I can't read that fast. It looks like about 10 or so lines.

Any ideas or suggestions for the new newbie ( 10 days )
Old 10-02-2003, 07:07 PM   #2
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well from command line change directories >> cd /var/log
this dir has the xf86 error log in it.......just use vi to read it and see what errors are there........there are other msg files here also.......sys log, messages, and debug too......
Old 10-02-2003, 07:33 PM   #3
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Here is the contents of my XFree86.0.log file. I may be new but it looks like it does know what kind of card it is and I don't see any glaring erros.


XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20 i686 [ELF]
Build Date: 01 March 2003
Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Oct 2 20:18:53 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
(==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen 1" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "veiwsonic"
(**) | |-->Device "ati"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard1"
(**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such device)
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.6
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.4
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.2
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.3.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.6
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x8000002c, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 8086,7190 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 8086,7191 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 8086,1229 card 8086,000e rev 08 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:0: chip 8086,7110 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:14:1: chip 8086,7111 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 01,01,80 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:2: chip 8086,7112 card 0000,0000 rev 01 class 0c,03,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:14:3: chip 8086,7113 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class 06,80,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 1002,4742 card 1002,0084 rev 5c class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x008c (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 I/O range:
[0] -1 0 0x00001000 - 0x000010ff (0x100) IX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00001400 - 0x000014ff (0x100) IX[B]
[2] -1 0 0x00001800 - 0x000018ff (0x100) IX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x00001c00 - 0x00001cff (0x100) IX[B]
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0 0x40000000 - 0x410fffff (0x1100000) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:20:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(--) PCI:*(1:0:0) ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X rev 92, Mem @ 0x40000000/24, 0x41000000/12, I/O @ 0x1000/8
(II) Addressable bus resource ranges are
[0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B]
[1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B]
(II) OS-reported resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffe00000 - 0xffffffff (0x200000) MX[B](B)
[1] -1 0 0x00100000 - 0x3fffffff (0x3ff00000) MX[B]E(B)
[2] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B]
[3] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B]
[4] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B]
[5] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B]
[6] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x000000ff (0x100) IX[B]

Old 10-02-2003, 10:00 PM   #4
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maybe it was a typo, but the command should be ctrl-alt-F1
Old 10-03-2003, 07:10 AM   #5
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It was a typo...ctrl+alt+F(1-6) do nada, zip, zilch. It looks like it is running in 1024x768 on the console as the text is smaller that I would expect. I also have the penguin in the top left hand corner of the screen...
Old 10-03-2003, 02:29 PM   #6
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I can change the console to both standard VGA and frame buffer with different settings on color and reinstall lilo OK.

I am starting to wonder if it is looking for the PCI version of the card and not the AGP as the card is AGP. Is there a way to tell? Is there a place where I can get details on configuring this card or drivers or even how to compile custom files if need long as I can get it to work...
Old 10-03-2003, 06:26 PM   #7
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As root run:

/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 -configure

which will use the information supplied by your video card and monitor to automatically set up most parameters. Most modern video cards and monitors will supply the information required (ie. you don't have to set vert/horz rates, etc. ) It should drop a test config in your root directory and you can test it by:

/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 -xf86config /root/

Got this out of ESR's readme in /usr/doc.

Worked for me.
Old 10-14-2003, 04:14 AM   #8
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I have found the problem. The new generic ATI file for the XFree86 does not fully support my video card nor do any of the ATI files included with the new version. So my next question is how to get the same driver from a previous version of XFree86 to work in the newer version or am I going to be stuck until I can upgrade the video card.
Old 10-15-2003, 06:06 PM   #9
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Well, it has been a long go at it but I have found a way to get it to work...

I have dumped the Slack 9.1 and have installed Slack 8.1 and it works right off the bat. I am using Konqueror now to enter this reply. I have found various posts about ATI cards and the new XFree86 so I guess I will have to wait until the fixes get posted ( if ever, they are old cards ) or get a new video card.

Thanks for the Help and suggestions... it did help point me in the right direction.


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