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Are Slackers going to move to grub
Is there a plan for slackwares bootloader after lilo?
Is someone going to maintain it or is Slack going to use grub? http://lilo.alioth.debian.org |
My apologies for not including a link supporting the reason for this question.
http://lilo.alioth.debian.org Anyways the present maintainer is giving up next year. |
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Correction. Grub is also in Slackware 14.1. Thanks, EYo. |
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Never.
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Slackware 14.1 includes GRUB.
http://docs.slackware.com/howtos:sla..._first_install This is great bedtime reading for insomniacs: Code:
info grub |
Well, as lilo is able neither to make PE/COFF images for UEFI booting nor to to set NVRAM variables to edit the menu of the UEFI boot manager, its usage will now be confined to install bootloaders in legacy BIOS equipped machines anyway.
GRUB (already shipped in Slackware version 14.1 and used in Slackware64-4.1 to boot off the DVD installer machines with an UEFI firmware) is by far the most versatile software in that field (and probably the less easy to get acquainted with, this being a consequence of that). To win its label of Unified boot loader GRUB is also able to install a menu with the same look and feel on BIOS and UEFI machines (in the latter case as a replacement of the built-in UEFI boot menu). I don't like that idea for UEFI machines from an aesthetic point of view, but still a lot of distributions find handy to use that feature. There's also elilo that provides PE/COFF EFI images and efibootmgr that can modify the menu of the UEFI boot manager. Both are shipped in Slackware version 14.1 as well, and used to install Slackware 64-14.1 on UEFI machines. elilo is also used IIRC to boot off USB sticks the Slackware64-14.1 installer on UEFI machines. Also, syslinux version 6 is now able to boot UEFI machines off hard disks and USB sticks, but not off optical removable media (aka DVD). Unfortunately the development of syslinux appears to be somehow stalled or at least slowed down by lack of active developers at time of writing. Then there's also the kernel's EFI stub, that I didn't try. |
You can install Grub right after the end of the Slackware install.
Just skip the Lilo install, then proceed to chroot in your new root partition and do the following : Code:
# grub-install /dev/sdaUEFI enabled system get Grub installed out of the box (or it's Syslinux idk...) |
I bought my first UEFI machine long before most distros were supporting it. About the only info at the time was Rodsbooks.com and the kernel documentation. If I had to figure out grub back then I would still be legacy booting.
Just MHO but the stub kernel was/is the easiest way to get UEFI functioning. Of course people who are still hanging onto dual booting with Windows probably need grub. Just my opinion John |
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[1]preferably not on Macs, risk of damaging their EFI firmware |
I use GRUB on 14.1 but I would prefer if the OS probe is not automated.
That thing always breaks my manual configuration. |
for the time being, i won't
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elilo has been orphaned according to the sourceforge page http://sourceforge.net/projects/elilo/
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I installed grub on my laptop and switched to lilo. the new grub is configuration files make no sense. in the past grub was just as simple as lilo and I actually liked it.
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Hasn't grub been included with Slackware (in /extra) for, like, forever?
I'd prefer not to move to Grub (I've found other bootloaders easier to understand), but I'd also prefer Grub to SysLinux. When I tried extlinux, it would break every time the device node for my boot drive changed (say, from /dev/sda to /dev/sdb). |
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