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Old 08-07-2018, 01:33 AM   #1
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Anyone Know of an SIP App for Slack That Works with Vonage?


Title says most but I should add I'd prefer one that has a SlackBuild and is free of cost. I very much like the Vonage service but their SIP app does not extend to Linux installation and I also find it much like selling a car where the steering wheel is optional.
 
Old 08-07-2018, 04:57 AM   #2
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So, you look for a Slackware package (and a free application) for a service called "Vonage Business", which is designed specially and solely for companies?

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Old 08-07-2018, 06:06 AM   #3
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I'm not sure I get your "drift" Darth but I pay for my Vonage service and nowhere on my bill does it say "Business" perhaps since it is my home phone. I don't wish to sidestep Vonage at all. AFAIK that's not possible without their proprietary router which I paid for. I like having legacy type cordless phones because among other things they ring a LOT louder than my cellphone. I can hear it in other rooms and if not too far away, even outside. However sometimes I'd like to be able to dial in through my PC for various reasons, none of which violate my terms of service with Vonage. So kindly take your snide assumptions and shove them in your wastebasket

Frankly the tone of many of your posts makes me wonder if you're the type of guy who goes to a bar and smiles a lot but underneath it all is really just a belligerent boozehound spoiling for a fight.

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Well, what I known (from my location) about about Vonage is that is a Business SIP Service for Companies, something like a "Skype for Business" if you want...

BUT, you raised the point of land phones (about which I wasn't aware), then I apologize!

Anyway, I suspect that those services which use dedicated hardware will use also proprietary protocols.

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Old 08-07-2018, 03:28 PM   #5
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Give jitsi a shot.

I had played around with Twinkle back when I worked on VoIP systems at Nortel, but that's been abandoned for years.
 
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Thank you Richard Cranium I had wondered about several and along with Asterisk, jitsi was high on the list. There are over a dozen SIP apps for Linux that I know of and not wanting o just try them all was the reason for this thread. I'm still hoping to hear from someone who has found one that worked but failing that I'd at least like to narrow the field and jityi now has a star by it.
 
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Well, what I known (from my location) about about Vonage is that is a Business SIP Service for Companies, something like a "Skype for Business" if you want...

BUT, you raised the point of land phones (about which I wasn't aware), then I apologize!

Anyway, I suspect that those services which use dedicated hardware will use also proprietary protocols.
Yes, Darth, mine is not a business account but is strictly a VOIP phone service... cheap and effective. Good point about protocols but I'm remaining optimistic that the proprietary router precludes a lockout for PC-as-phone if I can just figure out how to utilize it. Hmmm perhaps that is an avenue to explore - direct connection through that router maybe directing the software to route through that IP instead of the Main. I'll look into that. Thanks!
 
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Well guys as part of my ongoing research I did come across the following so hope grows and it looks like I'm going to spend the coming weekend trying out Asterisk and possibly jitsi as well.

https://www.voip-info.org/asterisk-c...nage-softphone
 
Old 08-08-2018, 09:53 PM   #9
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Asterix may be more than you want, unless you want to run a PBX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_telephone_system) in your home. If you have
  1. a really big home or
  2. several buildings on a property
then you might want one.

OTOH, it isn't obvious how to integrate jitsi with vonage. Asterix at least has some documentation.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 09:54 AM   #10
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I found a Vonage support page that shows the setup for X-Lite as a softphone. There is a Slackbuild for Linphone that might be able to duplicate the X-Lite settings. I suspect the Vonage "router" you mention is just an ATA but I could be wrong.

X-Lite Softphone Setup
https://businesssupport.vonage.com/a...one-Setup-1047

Slackbuild
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...work/linphone/
 
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TYVM Chuck56 I followed the XLite link but that solidified my vague impression that there is a distinction between Business and Residential and my account I now know for certain is Residential. So I went to Vonage website and initiated a Chat explaining that I don't want to give up my Cordless Network but that sometimes I wanted to be able to use a headset and though my Cordless Station doesn't support that feature, obviously PCs do so I'd prefer that to buying a redundancy assuming such Cordless phone systems exist that have Headset capability.

Since my Cordless network connects to the Vonage router through simple ancient phone cable like for old landline phones I suppose it would be possible to employ an old 56K modem but since the router also has a second ethernet jack, maybe that will pan out somehow. Vonage does offer 2 additional linked mobile devices for free but I don't yet know if that can include a PC. The odds could be decent since I'm pretty sure that includes Tablets so a PC may fill the bill in that way.

Something I hadn't thought of may also be in the balance since, like most folks these days, I don't have a true Land Line so FAXes are a problem. My HP Business level printer has FAX capability but I haven't explored if that will work w/o a land line. So for a few years I've paid a service for fax capability which is a bit overkill since I haven't sent even one fax per year, just one in the last 3 years.

I'm still fumbling in the dark but at least it's turned to grey. I'll keep at it.
 
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I can tell you than Vonage did not pass fax transmissions when I used it a few years ago. It would make the call, but the signal would be distorted just enough that the other side would not receive the fax. They may have fixed that since then; I don't know. I would specifically ask Vonage about it or check their web site.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 05:14 PM   #13
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enorbet, I had Vonage many years ago, back then they also had a USB option that allowed PC/Phone calls. I am not sure if its an either or option, but it might be worth asking them. You would have to use a Windows VM though, if I remember correctly.

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Old 08-09-2018, 06:30 PM   #14
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I can tell you than Vonage did not pass fax transmissions when I used it a few years ago. It would make the call, but the signal would be distorted just enough that the other side would not receive the fax. They may have fixed that since then; I don't know. I would specifically ask Vonage about it or check their web site.
I have a client that for a few years has successfully used several Vonage units (VDV-21) for faxing. The fax machines are connected to either line #1 or line #2, which Vonage provisioned as either voice or fax. Most device locations are connected to an Internet service providing 15 to 50 Mbs. Perhaps a "good" Internet connection increases successful fax transmissions/receptions? All connections wired, not wireless.

A few years ago this same client had frequent problems faxing with these exact same Vonage units but with possibly lower Internet connection speeds and perhaps older firmware. These days when there is a rare fax problem with these Vonage units it always turns out to be the fax machine or connection at the other end.

About 2 years ago, I connected 2 lines of a 4-line NEW RCA desk telephone to a Vonage unit and ended up with frequent one-way path problems. I replaced it with a another NEW 2-line RCA desk telephone of the same RCA telephone model family but had the same frequent problem. I replaced that 2-line replacement with a non-RCA 2-line handset and the problems went away. The store where I bought the second RCA telephone said that they have had several customers return those models. Summary: In communications it takes at least two to tango so the problem may not be the Vonage unit.)

However ...
I have had recent (in the last 2 years) and frequent problems (failed connection) directing a carrier's 800 service to Vonage telephone numbers. After chasing this for several weeks with all of the services involved the conclusion was that the 800 service expected simple analog type systems and didn't always work well with digital "carriers". The service that had the most problems seemed to be Vonage, however this was only anecdotal from their advanced support personnel.
 
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Ethernet Pass Through

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Since my Cordless network connects to the Vonage router through simple ancient phone cable like for old landline phones I suppose it would be possible to employ an old 56K modem but since the router also has a second ethernet jack, maybe that will pan out somehow.
On the Vonage VD21 models the second Ethernet port is just to connect other Ethernet capable devices (computers, switches). It permits the Vonage unit to be inserted to a LAN and not have to lose an Ethernet port in the process.
 
  


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