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Old 07-10-2023, 09:26 AM   #76
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So any opinions about the 7600? The price is right, and it's better than the Nvidia 4060 in a lot of the benchmarks I've seen. I'm told it only has 8GB video RAM, and that I should shoot for the 6700 or better. (That's also $100-150 more.) I've got an NVIDIA 1050ti with 4GB of RAM, so anything is going to be a nice upgrade. I'm also unlikely to game at anything other than 1080.
 
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Old 07-10-2023, 09:52 AM   #77
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Here is an interesting (IMHO) article about current GPUs.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...ll-one-to-buy/
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.......And around all of these GPU launches, there has been one card at the center: AMD’s RX 6700 XT.... .....an impressive........

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Old 07-10-2023, 11:19 AM   #78
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Here is an interesting (IMHO) article about current GPUs.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/comput...ll-one-to-buy/
Yeah...that and other articles like that are why I'm second-guessing myself.
 
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Old 07-10-2023, 12:17 PM   #79
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If you care about rendering windows games on steam proton using raytracing rendering path (which is not so many games yet). RTX overpowers RX. Otherwise AMD has good driver support built into mesa, as opposed to obnoxious NVIDIA blob. Latest and greatest gpu on linux will probably have underperforment linux driver support ( it will probably catch up but there is usually a lag). For 1080 with no raytracing RX 6700 xt is probably overkill. If you want raytracing probably rtx 3070. If not rx 5700 xt or rx 6600 (with or without xt) is probably enough.




Intel Arc has that lag thing going on linux drivers now. I would avoid them until it resolves.

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Old 08-12-2023, 03:53 PM   #80
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So any opinions about the 7600? The price is right, and it's better than the Nvidia 4060 in a lot of the benchmarks I've seen. I'm told it only has 8GB video RAM, and that I should shoot for the 6700 or better. (That's also $100-150 more.) I've got an NVIDIA 1050ti with 4GB of RAM, so anything is going to be a nice upgrade. I'm also unlikely to game at anything other than 1080.
Regarding 7600. I've spent a nice friday and saturday with RX 7600 and Slackware (current).

I have had Ryzen 3 4350 PRO CPU with integrated graphics and everything was good.
But this Friday I've got Ryzen 5 5600X CPU and AMD Radeon RX 7600 (MSI).

The problem is - Slackware64-current boots up but after amdgpu driver is loaded (just after message about loading kernel)
screen becomes blank / no video. However the system is available over SSH.

I've tried to boot with nomodeset but this ends up in video frozen with kernel loading message (the system boots up successfully but video driver is not loaded and fbcon doesn't appear/ is not visible.

I've installed the newest BIOS for MoBo, updated to the latest 6.1.45 kernel available for Slackware64-current.
Nothing helped.

I've had thoughts that Graphics Card is defective or that PSU doesn't supply enough power. However, I've made an Ubuntu live flash-drive (installation) and successfully booted Ubuntu and then installed it (in order to have working system). For the moment I want to try some games on Steam to ensure graphics is working properly.


Maybe someone can guide me to resolve the problem with Slackware64-current?

I've attached some logs. LMK if any additional information is necessary.

Edit: Information regarding attached displays is available but there is no video at all.
Also I've had troubles trying to shutdown/reboot system in this state. The system was not powered off. However I've solved this manually removing amdgpu module (rmmod amdgpu)

Edit: I've successfully installed and played Crossout under Ubuntu. All Video settings automatically were set to highest quality (as far as I understand). The picture looks much better than with integrated graphics )))
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File Type: log dmesg.log (82.6 KB, 9 views)
File Type: log lspci.log (24.0 KB, 8 views)
File Type: log graphics.log (1.1 KB, 8 views)

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Old 08-12-2023, 04:22 PM   #81
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Out of curiosity, is it the black-screen-after boot issue with elilo that Pat was talking about in the current/grub threads?
 
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Out of curiosity, is it the black-screen-after boot issue with elilo that Pat was talking about in the current/grub threads?
This is completely possible since I'm using elilo with Slackware. Will you please provide a link to that thread.
 
Old 08-12-2023, 04:51 PM   #83
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This is completely possible since I'm using elilo with Slackware. Will you please provide a link to that thread.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...6/#post6447858

Another thing to try is booting with Alien Bob's slackware live. (I think it uses grub, as well.)
 
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Old 08-12-2023, 04:56 PM   #84
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No, Slackware live had the same symptoms - no video (after menu choice made). System boots, ping responses are sent (no SSH thought). The only thing working on the live was memtest.
However mini-install iso also booted normally and console was available.

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Old 08-12-2023, 05:03 PM   #85
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For me this looks like something is with amdgpu driver - maybe just improper configuration. I'll check dmesg under Ubuntu to verify if there are the same warnings/errors as in the Slackware' log.
 
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Old 08-13-2023, 10:40 AM   #86
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Try rolling your own custom kernel 6.4.x or 6.5.0-rcx. 6.1.x that is now in current maybe old for most reliable RDNA3 (RX7600) results.
 
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Old 08-13-2023, 10:46 AM   #87
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I had problems with x-server with latest current.
I booted my backup kernel (6.2.5) and everything is fine so it seems to be the kernel.

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Old 08-13-2023, 01:26 PM   #88
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https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux...re.git/commit/ This could be an issue, as well..
 
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:01 AM   #89
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Try rolling your own custom kernel 6.4.x or 6.5.0-rcx. 6.1.x that is now in current maybe old for most reliable RDNA3 (RX7600) results.
This looks promising. Ubuntu 23.04 which I have installed on an additional HDD runs kernel 6.2.0 and everything is good with video.
At least after installing the 6.4.10 kernel I can start system in console mode (runlevel 3). Starting x's however leads to system hang...

Maybe that's because I'm not so good in building new kernels from sources. Even more the 6.4.x branch added a bunch of new kernel parameters and I've had some troubles dealing with them while running build_all_kernels.sh from https://mirrors.slackware.com/slackw...rent/source/k/. The main problem was that the script assumes there are all answers for kernel configuration provided in config files. That was not the case since I've just copied old configs for 6.1.45 and while building kernel-source package asked all those questions interactively the following step - namely getting package name for huge kernel build - runs with output redirected into /dev/null and I've waited an hour before finding out that something is not good (not building at all).

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Old 08-14-2023, 09:54 AM   #90
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My advice is start with 6.1.x slackware huge config. When make oldconfig runs and prompts for choices for new features, choose m (module) whenever it is an option. Otherwise, (when only N or Y is available), choose the default. This usually works well enough to get a kernel that boots and runs system. After your system works, you can go back and try to figure out generic + initrd config that works for greater efficiency.


Also, sometimes a system that hangs when starting xorg doesn't hang starting wayland. Try startkwayland at runlevel 3 console.

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