All Things KDE5/Plasma for Slackware Users.

cwizardone · 04-08-2020, 10:31 AM

How might this effect KDE?

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New Qt Releases Might Now Be Restricted To Paying Customers For 12 Months
Written by Michael Larabel in Qt on 8 April 2020 at 07:53 AM EDT

.........But the most surprising new information made public today by KDE's Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer is that The Qt Company is considering making new releases paid-customer-only for the first twelve months.

Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote, "But last week, the company suddenly informed both the KDE e.V. board and the KDE Free QT Foundation that the economic outlook caused by the Corona virus puts more pressure on them to increase short-term revenue. As a result, they are thinking about restricting ALL Qt releases to paid license holders for the first 12 months. They are aware that this would mean the end of contributions via Open Governance in practice."............

The entire news story can be found here, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...t-New-Releases

sombragris · 04-08-2020, 01:30 PM

This is old news. The changes were announced in January.

KDE devs answered at that time with a "not that much of a deal" tone, but now KDE is getting more serious. See the thread below:

https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/sta...34397837385729

EDIT: The situation is indeed more serious, but there are negotiations ongoing. Hope it gets resolved to everyone's satisfaction.

cwizardone · 04-08-2020, 01:59 PM

This is the old news,

Quote:

.....KDE and the open-source Qt folks have been in discussions with The Qt Company especially with the restrictions announced back in January by The Qt Company that LTS point releases might only be available to commercial customers, Qt Accounts being needed for binary package downloads, etc......

The information quoted in post #46 is new as of this morning.

gdiazlo · 04-11-2020, 05:07 AM

The possibility to have a fork of the QT stuff increases I guess.

cwizardone · 04-11-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gdiazlo

The possibility to have a fork of the QT stuff increases I guess.

Yes, and here is a news story on the subject,

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ssible-Qt-Fork

rvdboom · 04-18-2020, 10:42 AM

Has anyone managed to start a Plasma on Wayland with AlienBOB's KDE5 packages on slackware64-current?
I just get a black screen right now when I try.

LuckyCyborg · 04-18-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rvdboom

Has anyone managed to start a Plasma on Wayland with AlienBOB's KDE5 packages on slackware64-current?
I just get a black screen right now when I try.

No, and I do not think that Plasma5 packages shipped by Mr. Hameleers are supposed to work on Wayland.

I believe that those Plasma5 builds are X11 only.

TurboBlaze · 04-18-2020, 11:37 AM

KDE Continuing To See More Wayland Improvements, Fixes To Dolphin
https://pointieststick.com/2020/04/1...-improvements/

Alien Bob · 04-18-2020, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg

No, and I do not think that Plasma5 packages shipped by Mr. Hameleers are supposed to work on Wayland.

I believe that those Plasma5 builds are X11 only.

Wayland is now part of Slackware, and mesa, qt5 and xorg-server are built against it. Also, my Plasma5 packages are built against those.
But a Plasma5 Wayland session will not work in Slackware, it looks like it may need (e)logind which is not part of Slackware. ConsoleKit2 is no longer working as a drop-in replacement for logind like it did last year. I do not know why.

tramtrist · 04-18-2020, 07:11 PM

AlienBob.. yes this is what I found when using Sway with Slackware and ConsoleKit2
It simply didnt work.
Building and installing elogind worked fine for that purpose though I understand that's not a part of Slackware either.

cwizardone · 04-23-2020, 04:10 PM

KDE's April 2020 Apps Update

The list of many fixes and improvements can be found here.
https://kde.org/announcements/releas...4-apps-update/

gmgf · 04-24-2020, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

KDE's April 2020 Apps Update

The list of many fixes and improvements can be found here.
https://kde.org/announcements/releas...4-apps-update/

Alien packages version

https://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/ChangeLog.txt
https://alien.slackbook.org/ktown/current/latest/

sombragris · 04-25-2020, 06:37 PM

Tanks Eric! Upgraded here, everything works OK so far.

keeneadt · 04-29-2020, 02:54 AM

Folks, i have a strange problem with cyrillic symbols in some apps like emacs in plasma session (xorg). It recognizes cyrillic, however when it comes to add some path, that contains cyrillic, an app doesn't see this file. E.g. my ~/Downloads directory contains about a 100 files with cyrillic names. When i open this directory in emacs, i see these files, but when i try to open any of them with built in commandline, emacs sees no files with cyrillic. The problem comes with installation of ktown. I guess it's related to locale settings, but i can't open regional settings in system settings - i always get crush of settings.

Code:

grep export /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
export LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
export LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
export LC_MONETARY=ru_RU.UTF-8
export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
export LC_PAPER=ru_RU.UTF-8
export LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
export LC_ADDRESS=ru_RU.UTF-8
export LC_TELEPHONE=ru_RU.UTF-8
export LC_MEASUREMENT=ru_RU.UTF-8
export LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
export LC_COLLATE=C

locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=ru_RU.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

In xfce4 session i see no such problem. Any advices?

P.S. To be honest... So much crushes in kde. I've never though it would be such... crushing.

gegechris99 · 04-29-2020, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keeneadt

I guess it's related to locale settings, but i can't open regional settings in system settings - i always get crush of settings.

A workaround to KDE5 system settings crash on regional setting is:

Code:

$ QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Base systemsettings5

source: alienBOB blog