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igadoter 07-22-2021 02:44 PM

I am willing to accept opinion that it is KDE programmer mistake. Other programs like df using libmount to parse /proc/self/mountinfo evidently does not crash.

bassmadrigal 07-22-2021 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6268901)
Yes, according with FHS 3.0 the /var/run should be a directory or a symlink to /run

No, it says it's valid. "should" and "valid" have different meanings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6268901)
But, is written somewhere that a /var/run directory should be mounted as shared bind with /run ?

No, but it doesn't say it can't be, at least not that I can find.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6268901)
I discussed with some friends of mine who are also Linux users, and everybody agreed that in the letter of FHS specs that means either separate directories, either a symlink of /var/run to /run .

And as I said in my previous comment, the FHS can be interpreted in different ways by different people. There's certain things in there that are not questionable, but there's other things that can be interpreted in different ways. There is also nothing in the FHS about symlinking /bin -> /usr/bin, /sbin -> /usr/sbin, /lib -> /usr/lib, and /lib64 -> /usr/lib64, but Fedora did this back in 2012 with Fedora 17.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6268901)
And everybody agreed with one thing: this shared bind mounting means troubles, because it may confuse various programs.

I'm not arguing that /var/run/ should remain as a bind mount (I haven't seen any arguments to keep the bind mount and I'm not sure why it was chosen in the first place), but I don't see anything stating it is forbidden in the FHS. That was all my post was meant to cover.

cwizardone 07-24-2021 09:29 AM

The last week's new features, bug fixes and performance improvements,

https://pointieststick.com/2021/07/2...ished-kickoff/

cwizardone 07-24-2021 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 6258583)
One of the downsides of KDE5 has been the paucity of alternative themes. It is accentuated when one sees what some others in a parallel universe consider to be beautiful.

Absolutely! Couldn't agree more!
Every now and then something in a -current upgrade will trash my kde4 setup. It happened again the other day. Actually, it was either the most recent bind or curl, one or the other or both, trashed networkmanager and reverting to the old versions didn't solve the problem. Neither did re-installing networkmanager.
So, I decided to bite the bullet and do a fresh install of the most recent -current .iso and keep kde5.
I thought I should just learn to live with "it," that is, kde5, and deleted all the various "updates/upgrades" I've collected since 6 Dec.2020, the date of the last -current .iso with kde4.
Every time I've tried this in the past I ended up going back to kde4. This time was no exception. After 24 hours of trying various different themes, configurations, etc., etc., etc., I, again, did a "fresh" installation of the 6 December 2020 -current .iso.

Xfce-4.16 doesn't impress me either, but it can be made to look better than kde5 (which isn't difficult).

As "they" say, "Each to their own" or "Whatever floats your boat" or "Whatever blows up your skirt" or
"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder", etc. etc., etc.
Take your pick.
:)

Regnad Kcin 07-25-2021 10:15 AM

Quote:

I thought I should just learn to live with "it," that is, kde5
Well, that is what I have been doing and have gotten used to having some of
the conveniences of Kde5 such as kconnect.

The themes do pretty much suck in comparison with kde4, though.
I am too busy these days to mess with it much. I have something
I can live with and maybe later I can find some alternative treatment.

"A thing of beauty is a joy forever."

cwizardone 07-25-2021 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin (Post 6269550)
.........such as kconnect............

I just took a look at the kconnect web site and it does sound useful.
https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

Especially now the we are being "herded" into using a smart phone, whether we want to
or not.
A bank I use just announced that making a deposit via their web site will be discontinued in
the near future, but turned around, in the same letter, and encouraged users to download
their smart phone app that does the same thing.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
:mad:

AlleyTrotter 07-25-2021 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 6269555)
I just took a look at the kconnect web site and it does sound useful.
https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

Especially now the we are being "herded" into using a smart phone, whether we want to
or not.
A bank I use just announced that making a deposit via their web site will be discontinued in
the near future, but turned around, in the same letter, and encouraged users to download
their smart phone app that does the same thing.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
:mad:

I still do not own a smart phone or a dumb one, (only a landline)even though there are occasions I would like to have one. Just wish someone made one with an actual power off switch. I heard there is one now that you can turn off, but it's up to me to be sure everything works as expected.
IMHO
john

LuckyCyborg 07-25-2021 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 6269555)
I just took a look at the kconnect web site and it does sound useful.
https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

Especially now the we are being "herded" into using a smart phone, whether we want to
or not.
A bank I use just announced that making a deposit via their web site will be discontinued in
the near future, but turned around, in the same letter, and encouraged users to download
their smart phone app that does the same thing.
Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
:mad:

Blame the legions of those who are unable to make the difference between bankofamerica.com and bankofamerica.tk ... [1]

I believe that so many lost their moneys because reasons, that the banks arrived to conclusion that WWW is some kind of rocket sciences for many, then better to safer solutions for banking.

[1] And no, is nothing to be specific to a particular country from this World. Everywhere are so many who bitten the dirt on those noble arts of web-browsing.

cwizardone 07-25-2021 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 6269619)
I still do not own a smart phone or a dumb one, (only a landline)even though there are occasions I would like to have one. Just wish someone made one with an actual power off switch. I heard there is one now that you can turn off, but it's up to me to be sure everything works as expected.
IMHO
john

If it hadn't become "necessary" a couple of years ago, I would never have bought one, but the one I have allows the user to turn off just about everything, including the power. I went through the settings and turned off just about everything related to google, chrome, location, etc. I know disabling "location" does work as the Uber app asks that I turn it on so they can find me.
It is the first one I've own, so I don't know about other brands or models, but overall, I'm impressed with the technology. It is made by LG (but they are getting out of the phone business).
Some applications are pretty clever. Prior to the pandemic I would, on occassin, "visit" with the other old farts at the local pub. There is an app that lets you play the jukebox without leaving your chair. I probably spent more money that way on each visit than I did on beverages.
:)

AlleyTrotter 07-25-2021 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 6269645)
but the one I have allows the user to turn off just about everything, including the power. I went through the settings and turned off just about everything related to google, chrome, location, etc.
:)

I'm not talking about some software sleep or suspend. I want to physically disconnect the battery so there is no check in with nearest tower. Same as if the battery is actually removed from the circuit.
john

demifiend 07-25-2021 08:18 PM

Setting Compose Key in Plasma on Wayland
 
I installed Slackware -current using Alien's daily ISO yesterday. Everything went smoothly and Plasma is a lot better than I remember it being on other distros a few years ago. However, when I tried Plasma on Wayland I found that remapping the Compose key to Caps Lock doesn't work. However, it does work in X11, so I'll just stick with X11.

KDE Plasma version: 5.22.3
KDE Frameworks version: 5.84.0
Qt version: 5.15.2

Looking forward to the release of Slackware 15. It feels really solid already.

cwizardone 07-25-2021 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 6269651)
I'm not talking about some software sleep or suspend. I want to physically disconnect the battery so there is no check in with nearest tower. Same as if the battery is actually removed from the circuit.
john

This one has a button on the back of the case, below the camera lens. You press it and hold it down for a few seconds and three optons will appear on the front screen, "Power off," "Power off and restart" and "Turn on Airplane mode."
As far as I can tell, it is turned off. To turn it back on you press and hold the same button and it takes over 30 seconds to boot up and load the operating system.
The only other option would be to physically remove the battery, which can be done.

mlangdn 07-26-2021 06:00 AM

Some have non-removable batteries. Powering off does the same thing.

AlleyTrotter 07-26-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 6269658)
This one has a button on the back of the case, below the camera lens. You press it and hold it down for a few seconds and three optons will appear on the front screen, "Power off," "Power off and restart" and "Turn on Airplane mode."
As far as I can tell, it is turned off. To turn it back on you press and hold the same button and it takes over 30 seconds to boot up and load the operating system.
The only other option would be to physically remove the battery, which can be done.

Maybe I need to look harder, most phones I've looked at only do a soft off sort of like a suspend on a desktop/laptop.
Thanks
john

bassmadrigal 07-26-2021 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlleyTrotter (Post 6269759)
Maybe I need to look harder, most phones I've looked at only do a soft off sort of like a suspend on a desktop/laptop.
Thanks
john

I don't know of any phones that do that unless you just go by tapping their power button (which mainly acts as a screen on/screen off button). However, if you press and hold the button and use the shutdown option included with both Android and iOS, the device does physically power off. When powered back on, both Android and iOS go through the full boot up process and can take 15-60 seconds until your phone is usable again (depending on your device).

I actually don't know of any devices that support a low-powered suspend like exists on desktops/laptops.


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