Alien Bob's Blog & Mr. Workman's site appear to be Off-line.

Alien Bob · 06-22-2013, 02:01 PM

Typicallly, my music server (http://taper.alienbase.nl/slackware14) playlist shows these two: "Suffer in silence" (Klinik) and "No sell out (Malcolm X)" by Keith LeBlanc. Appropriate feelings when waiting for the blog to re-appear, reading Poettering^H^H^H^H^H^Hry in the meantime.

Eric

nick_th_fury · 06-22-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik_FL

When companies tier reliability into categories I am extremely dubious. Corporate culture is pervasive. If one product is allowed to have poor quality that tends to affect all the other products. I purposely avoid Western Digital and Seagate disk drives. I've had better luck with Samsung and Hitachi.

Amen on Seagate problems. I've always had pretty good Luck with Hitachi & WD Black drives.

Gerard Lally · 06-22-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik_FL

When companies tier reliability into categories I am extremely dubious. Corporate culture is pervasive. If one product is allowed to have poor quality that tends to affect all the other products. I purposely avoid Western Digital and Seagate disk drives. I've had better luck with Samsung and Hitachi.

I always avoided Seagate like the plague, and tended to favour Samsung, with Western Digital in second place. Can you imagine my disappointment then to hear Seagate had acquired Samsung's HDD business?

Gerard Lally · 06-22-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Z038

How about those Western Digital Red drives? Has anyone had positive or negative experience with those? According to WD, they are supposed to be more rugged and reliable than their standard drives.

I have had one as my main data disk for about a year. No problems, fingers crossed, although I do regret not shelling out for one of the WD black RE4 drives. I much preferred Samsung until their HDD business was acquired by Seagate.

What bothers me most about WD disk drives is the inclusion of the firmware-based "extras", which you can't get rid of. Is it akin to permanently-embedded malware? With its track record of collusion with the NSA and CIA, corporate America doesn't fill me with confidence on this point.

rworkman · 06-22-2013, 04:03 PM

All services should be restored. For now, we put the "recovered" data in some free space in /home and did a bind mount to where everything expects it; rob0 and I will make a trip to BHM next week to swap out the bad drives, so there will be some temporary downtime again for that. Ideally, we can give a bit more notice for that though :-)

I'm still syncing some of the slackware trees over (sorry for raping your mirror, Darren), so mirrors.slackware.com might still be incomplete :/

dugan · 06-23-2013, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik_FL

When companies tier reliability into categories I am extremely dubious.

What, like Microsoft did with Windows 95/98/Me and Windows NT/2000?

TobiSGD · 06-23-2013, 04:08 PM

Regarding harddisks, this is what I have here:
WD Caviar Green, 500GB, 18960 hours power on, 819 power cycles, no errors
Seagate Maxtor DiamondMax 23, 500GB, 17470 hours power on, 860 power cycles, no errors
SAMSUNG SpinPoint F4 EG (AFT), 2TB, 19660 hours power on, 34 power cycles, no errors

Working in the RMA department of different OEMs in the last years I could not see a difference of return rates for the different manufacturers. I buy harddisks dependent on price, not manufacturer and never had a problem with that.

mRgOBLIN · 07-14-2013, 05:29 PM

Against my better judgement, I just put 8 x 3TB WD Red drives in a QNAP NAS as they were what QNAP recommended. I guess time will tell if that was a wise choice or not.