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Old 01-18-2012, 09:58 AM   #1
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Alien Bob's Blog.


Everytime I have tried over the last twelve plus hours to go Alien Bob's blog I get taken here,

http://harrier.lizella.net/sopa.html

Are you just making a statement Mr. Hameleers or has the site been hacked?

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Old 01-18-2012, 10:03 AM   #2
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #3
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It's part of the anti-SOPA campaign. Look at reddit and Wikipedia:
http://www.reddit.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
 
Old 01-18-2012, 11:24 AM   #4
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Yeah quite a lot of people are making the same statement. Did my sites today + studioware.org. Robbie Workman's is also blacked out, as is noobfarm and the other slackadelic sites.
 
Old 01-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #5
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Everytime I have tried over the last twelve plus hours to go Alien Bob's blog I get taken here,

http://harrier.lizella.net/sopa.html

Are you just making a statement Mr. Hameleers or has the site been hacked?
I am not making a statement. The owners of the server I host my blog and wiki on live in the US and decided that all web sites on the server should be blacked out. I just wish they had added a click-through to the real web sites.

I do not live in the US, and aalthough I sympathize with the ideas behind the blackout, the US is just another country in a bigger world. It is a pity that the effect of the actions to convince the US senate has repercussions for people in other countries with governments that care more about their people and less about their own pockets.
But that's the Internet for you... be glad that Google cache still works.

Eric
 
Old 01-18-2012, 12:49 PM   #6
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Trust me, if it passes, it will affect you.
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:53 PM   #7
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Trust me, if it passes, it will affect you.
On the contrary - if it passes, the US will ultimately marginalize itself in the world. Rising powers like China will take over the Internet.

Eric
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:18 PM   #8
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Hi,

Sorry Eric about your site and no pass through. Just the beginning!

I agree that if this passes then problems will get worse for the USA;
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excerpt from SOPA;
OpenCongress Summary

This bill would establish a system for taking down websites that the Justice Department determines to be dedicated to copyright infringment. The DoJ or the copyright owner would be able to commence a legal action against any site they deem to have "only limited purpose or use other than infringement," and the DoJ would be allowed to demand that search engines, social networking sites and domain name services block access to the targeted site. It would also make unauthorized web streaming of copyrighted content a felony with a possible penalty up to five years in prison. This bill combines two separate Senate bills -- S.968 and S.978 -- into one big House bill.
Here is the U.S. Congress posing a restricting bill for the Internet and this same Congress(DEM/Republican) cannot even pass laws to control our borders. This bill gives more power to DOJ. This is like having the fox guard the chicken house.
DOJ cannot even control the department, how are they going to control the Internet. Create another useless leg as 'Department Of Internet Regulation/Pollution'. We will need to borrow more money to support another bureaucracy.

I can see controlling the transfer or pirating of intellectual rights as an issue. But at what cost? There are so many ways to secure and when done it is just a matter of time before someone that has been challenged then code is broken. Or someone places content that is copyrighted thus violation of laws. On and on we go!

More users should be aware the Internet is a world community resource! Everyone wants convenience! Morals. ethics and civic responsibility are at risk whenever you place something out in the open. Someone will take it & abuse. Normally for financial gain at someone Else's expense.
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:33 PM   #9
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Trust me, if it passes, it will affect you.
Yes it will, because our government, whichever party is in power, usually follows the US like sheep.
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:10 PM   #10
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The strings lead up from here too.
 
Old 01-18-2012, 03:36 PM   #11
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On the contrary - if it passes, the US will ultimately marginalize itself in the world. Rising powers like China will take over the Internet.

Eric
How does it work now? If you register a domain in the UK or any other country (using companies from that particular country), does it ultimately in some way have to go through some organisation from the US (eg. ICANN)? In other words, does the US ultimately control the interwebs? If that's the case, how would it be possible to get independent from them?
 
Old 01-18-2012, 04:04 PM   #12
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How does it work now? If you register a domain in the UK or any other country (using companies from that particular country), does it ultimately in some way have to go through some organisation from the US (eg. ICANN)? In other words, does the US ultimately control the interwebs? If that's the case, how would it be possible to get independent from them?
This is something I've been wondering as well. Couldn't everyone just move their domain hosting from American companies to European companies and then tell the bodies enforcing SOPA in America to jump in a lake?

It's a little bit like Team America: Internet Police.
 
Old 01-18-2012, 04:07 PM   #13
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How does it work now? If you register a domain in the UK or any other country (using companies from that particular country), does it ultimately in some way have to go through some organisation from the US (eg. ICANN)? In other words, does the US ultimately control the interwebs? If that's the case, how would it be possible to get independent from them?
All it needs is an independent set of root name servers that is not US-controlled. For instance, http://public-root.com/ but there are others, particularly in the AS/Pacific region where influence of the US is felt as restrictive. If the US tightens the noose, the rest of the world will just cut the rope.

At this moment in time, the USA is at the pivot point. They really stand a chance of being marginalized if their political body sells out to this ridiculous anti "piracy" lobby. The US will soon cease to be a leading country, the population but also their politicians are becoming more and more self-absorbed and sectarian.

Eric
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:58 PM   #14
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On the contrary - if it passes, the US will ultimately marginalize itself in the world. Rising powers like China will take over the Internet.
China's already got the Great Firewall. From where I sit, some in the US want in on the firewall action.
 
Old 01-18-2012, 11:54 PM   #15
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Our government is completely out of control.

The internet is about the only thing that still works in an organic & efficient manner. If these boobs get a hold of it, you watch how fast that changes.

This kind of shit makes me sick.
 
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