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Old 05-17-2016, 12:25 PM   #1
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I am currently reading the Slackware book. I am slowly working through it. It is very educational. I will be doing my install tonight hopefully. My question is what do you usually do after a successful install. When you install a browser, flash, etc.. do you just use the slackbuilds.org site.

Also is a sudo apt-get install update necessary ? Basically I just want my computer to be functional in browsing the internet, watching youtube videos until I get really in depth with the OS.

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Old 05-17-2016, 12:39 PM   #2
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Slackware does not use apt. It does have a system called, slackpkg, but as I don't use it, I'm sure some one else will advise.

However, here is a good place to start,

http://docs.slackware.com/start

First and foremost you should do a full Slackware installation.

Then you can install "third party" packages to round out your installation. I would seriously recommend the packages from one of the lead Slackware developers, Alien Bob.
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/

He has been kind enough to provide packages for,
Multilib support (running 32-bit applications under Slackware64),
Chromium, Chromium-pepperflash and Chromium-widevine,
Flashplayer,
Icedtea-web and
Openjre (Java),
LibreOffice,
Veracrypt (which replaced Truecrypt),
VLC (multimedia player),
KDE-5,
His Easy Firewall Generator @
http://www.slackware.com/~alien/efg/index.php
and many other packages

There is also, slackbuilds.org, where you get scripts to compile packages (roll your own), but that might be something that can wait until you have more experience.

https://www.slackbuilds.org/

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Old 05-17-2016, 12:49 PM   #3
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The advanced packaging tool (or apt, which includes apt-get) is part of Debian's packaging system. There is no apt-get in Slackware. Slackware's default packaging system will only install packages that are either on your system or in an official mirror. In fact, Slackware doesn't have anything in the default installation to install non-stock packages (non-stock being anything other than what is included within the slackware64 (or just slackware if you're using a 32bit version) folder.

There are a multitude of ways to get programs installed on Slackware, the most prominent probably being using SlackBuilds.org (commonly called SBo). It houses a large amount of build scripts to compile software on your machine. There are also several places you can get pre-compiled programs, although, ensure you get one for your version of Slackware, since libraries change between Slackware versions, and mismatched libraries can cause a lot of problems.

As far as browsers, there's already a few you can pick from on a default install, the most popular being Firefox (although, make sure you get the patches so you're running a newer version). In extra/ Pat also includes a script for Chrome. Flash usage is going down dramatically, and most modern browsers are able to use HTML5 as an alternative (although, you might need a newer version of Firefox than is in 14.1's patches/ directory... I don't remember when they added proper support). I removed flash quite a while back, and I don't miss it at all (I use Chrome as my primary browser).
 
Old 05-17-2016, 12:59 PM   #4
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Flash usage is going down dramatically, and most modern browsers are able to use HTML5 as an alternative (although, you might need a newer version of Firefox than is in 14.1's patches/ directory... I don't remember when they added proper support). I removed flash quite a while back, and I don't miss it at all (I use Chrome as my primary browser).
Chrome has its own built-in version of Flash, which is up-to-date, so that might be one reason why you don't miss it. (You probably know this already, but the wording of your post made it sound like you might not.)

To the OP: For other browsers, you can use the last official release from Adobe, which is rather old but still works for most things. It is in SlackBuilds under multimedia/flashplayer-plugin.

Most of the questions you are asking will be answered in the links that cwizardone provided. I think you will learn the most by just following the installation instructions and post-installation advice there and asking questions about specific things here when you get stuck.

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Old 05-17-2016, 01:02 PM   #5
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Chrome has its own built-in version of Flash, which is up-to-date, so that might be one reason why you don't miss it. (You probably know this already, but the wording of your post made it sound like you might not.) For other browsers, you can use the last official release from Adobe, which is rather old but still works for most things. It is in SlackBuilds under multimedia/flashplayer-plugin.
You are absolutely correct with that. Chrome does include the latest flash (at least for the 64bit versions), although, I disabled it on mine, just to see what I was missing without it. Turns out, not much
 
Old 05-17-2016, 01:26 PM   #6
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Hello and welcome to Slackware! If you are new to GNU Linux there are many included documents to read on the Slackware site and ISO. You are doing the right thing to read first. The ISO includes a README file, read it. The ISO also includes a Slackware Linux CD-ROM Installation HOWTO. Read it also, since it covers all essential steps and essential Post-Installation configuration. If you are not interested in an encrypted drive or Logical Volume Manager (advanced installs in my opinion) then follow the installer and do a standard install. After the install, your first startup will take you to a bash prompt as administrator unless you created a non-admin user during installation, create at least one non-administrative user (I usually make two, one for everyday and one for testing) and do all additional work from that account, using "su -" to get to the administrative account for package installations. As a normal user, you can select which Desktop Environment (KDE/XFCE) or window manager (Fluxbox, Blackbox, WindowMaker, FVWM, twm) you'd like to start by issuing the command xwmconfig, if not familiar with Linux I'd recommend KDE. Then simply type startx and your environment will start with the Slackware standard features. You'll find many browsers available Firefox, SeaMonkey, Konqueror, Lynx, Links, so you can then search on this site or google "slackpkg" and how to use it to update your system. Pat issues patches when necessary for the core of the Slackware system and it is important you keep your system up-to-date. Once updated you should be ready to explore and reading is again your friend. After updating I'd recommend learning how to create mkinitrd inorder for your system to run more standard, also you might want to look at slackpkg+ and proprietary graphic drivers. Last hint, if you are using a wireless network connection, be sure to read about network management of rc.inet1 and wpa_supplicant, DO NOT USE KDE's network configurator. Also there are many helpful people in this forum. Again, welcome to Slackware hope to see you posting again.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 06:57 PM   #7
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ah thank you everyone. I feel like this might be way over my head. I am not a big fan of Google or Google Chrome, so I wouldn't want to use that, but it sucks Firefox will be outdated and the flash will not be the most current. I am conflicted I might hold off on the install for a bit, but not sure just yet. This is good information to start with.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 07:11 PM   #8
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Firefox is not outdated, once you upgrade it will be the current ESR version.

after install, reboot

log in as root and do the following

nano /etc/slackpkg/mirrors (uncomment either ftp or http under find nearest mirror)

slackpkg update

slackpkg upgrade-all

adduser (then follow steps)

reboot

log in as user

xwmconfig (choose default DE or WM)

then startx

This will get you up and running with the latest patches and software. After a bit, if you are missing necessary software, then grab a copy of sbopkg and run from command line sbopkg then follow the options.

If this all seems a bit much you could also download an iso from SalixOS (based on Slackware) which uses slapt-get and is bit similar to Debians apt-get just not as complicated.

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Old 05-17-2016, 07:37 PM   #9
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Firefox is not outdated, once you upgrade it will be the current ESR version.
14.1 comes with ESR 38, and they have ESR 45. ESR 38 is currently scheduled to be EOL in less than a month (7 JUN). I'm just not sure where the HTML5 transition with youtube went into effect since I haven't used Firefox in years.

@OP, that being said, you can use ruario's script to download the latest version (ESR or regular) and install it on your system.

If you're really worried about how you get by with Slackware, you can always install it in a VM and get everything working there so you're familiar with it.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 08:35 PM   #10
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ah thank you everyone. I feel like this might be way over my head. I am not a big fan of Google or Google Chrome, so I wouldn't want to use that, but it sucks Firefox will be outdated and the flash will not be the most current. I am conflicted I might hold off on the install for a bit, but not sure just yet. This is good information to start with.
It's Flash that's outdated, not Firefox. This is true of every Linux distro out there for every browser other than Chrome, because Adobe no longer updates Flash for Linux. Chrome has its own built-in version. In some distros it's possible to use Chrome's Flash in Firefox, but I don't know if that plug-in is available for Slackware or not.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 09:03 PM   #11
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14.1 comes with ESR 38, and they have ESR 45. ESR 38 is currently scheduled to be EOL in less than a month (7 JUN). I'm just not sure where the HTML5 transition with youtube went into effect since I haven't used Firefox in years.

@OP, that being said, you can use ruario's script to download the latest version (ESR or regular) and install it on your system.

If you're really worried about how you get by with Slackware, you can always install it in a VM and get everything working there so you're familiar with it.
38.8 plays html5 just fine here. Could grab 45.1 from SalixOS as a repo, they've had it for a week or so.
http://slackware.uk/salix/x86_64/14.1/salix/xap/
http://slackware.uk/salix/i486/14.1/salix/xap/
Also, I am sure PV will switch to 45 when 38 is EOL.

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Old 05-17-2016, 09:08 PM   #12
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38.8 plays html5 just fine here.
Good to know.

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Also, I am sure PV will switch to 45 when 38 is EOL.
It's possible, but 14.0 is at 17.0.11esr, so at some point, Pat will likely leave 14.1's firefox on an EOL'd version. Maybe with it being so close to 14.2's release date, he'll continue to support 14.1 for a bit longer (to help people transition).
 
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It's Flash that's outdated, not Firefox. This is true of every Linux distro out there for every browser other than Chrome, because Adobe no longer updates Flash for Linux. Chrome has its own built-in version. In some distros it's possible to use Chrome's Flash in Firefox, but I don't know if that plug-in is available for Slackware or not.
If you want flash and do not want Chrome then use Aliens repo for Chromium with pepper-flash, heck you can even watch Netflix with it.

ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/people/al...ilds/chromium/
ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/people/al...rflash-plugin/
ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/people/al...devine-plugin/
 
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Good to know.



It's possible, but 14.0 is at 17.0.11esr, so at some point, Pat will likely leave 14.1's firefox on an EOL'd version. Maybe with it being so close to 14.2's release date, he'll continue to support 14.1 for a bit longer (to help people transition).
Interesting I did not realize that about 14.0.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 11:08 PM   #15
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So I'm not following your reasoning bassmadrigal about Firefox and 14.1.... why would Pat leave 14.1 Firefox on an EOL'd version when he continues to provide Firefox updates 14.2? There isn't anything unique about Firefox or SeaMonkey that requires special code or libraries which will be gone in 14.2. There are at least three solutions, one - use ruario's script to update, two - use the 14.2 pkg to update, or three - pull the linux binary from Firefox and build your own package with src2pkg. If the same issue happens with SeaMonkey, which I use, I know that is what I'll do. Also when did 14.0 become EOL'd. Pat is still supporting 13.37, 14.0, 14.1 and I know some have written that with a little effort they have no problem running some application packages from 13.37 in 12. series! Slackware is that stable!
 
  


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