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Adobe is planning to end-of-life Flash

Now that's official

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Specifically, we will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020 and encourage content creators to migrate any existing Flash content to these new open formats.

In the quoted text, "these new open formats" refers to HTML5, WebGL and WebAssembly.

This blog post is worth reading.

it's Christmas already?

or it's a late 1st of april?

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 5739795)

Now that's officialIn the quoted text, "these new open formats" refers to HTML5, WebGL and WebAssembly.

This blog post is worth reading.

Thanks for the heads-up, Didier!

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 5739795)

Now that's officialIn the quoted text, "these new open formats" refers to HTML5, WebGL and WebAssembly.

This blog post is worth reading.

Thanks a lot Didier.

Yeah, this is inevitable. Good to see they gave it until 2020 and didn't rush into it as they did a few years ago by cancelling updates for the Linux flash plugin.

I say: good riddance!

It will be missed, I always loved flash .shrug

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Originally Posted by Pixxt (Post 5740359)

It will be missed, I always loved flash .shrug

Always?

Even when the audio was out of sync by a second on Linux?

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 5740361)

Even when the audio was out of sync by a second on Linux?

Dang, I had completely forgotten about that. I remember choosing to download the flv files (long before mp4/webm were even thought of for youtube playback) and playing them with mplayer rather than suffer through those horrible sync issues. I probably still have a ton of those on un-used hard drives.

Thanks for that bit of nostalgia ;)

There are a ton of cheesy little flash games out there. There are three I'll personally miss.

I suppose it's like any other obsolete format .. those that are worth the effort will get ported forward while the rest fade into oblivion.

Lightspark in time will be what should be used for those cheesy little flash games.

This is just a part of the general industry wide move away from browser plugins. It's not Adobe suddenly waking up and realising that flash isn't so great...

Not happening. Adobe has sung this song before, and Flash is still with us. I believe the best case scenario would be Flash getting rebranded for legacy support while the new name & downloads aren't advertised outside a very narrow niche. Home user? Sorry, no more flash downloads! Corporate user with some kind of flash widget needed on the intranet? Come this way...

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Originally Posted by Gnisho (Post 5740785)

I dunno, major browsers seem to be wholeheartedly backing this.

Mozilla

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March 2017
Starting with Firefox 52 in March 2017, plugins other than Adobe Flash are no longer supported in Firefox. Firefox Extended Support Release 52 will continue to support non-Flash plugins until early 2018.
August 2017
Starting with Firefox 55 in August 2017, users must choose which sites are allowed to activate the Flash plugin. Users will have the choice to remember the Flash setting per-site. This change will be rolled out progressively during August and September 2017.

In order to improve security and performance, Mozilla will maintain a list of sites which cannot use any plugins.
September 2017
Starting with Firefox 56 in September 2017, Firefox for Android will remove all support for plugins.
Late 2018
In the second half of 2018, Firefox will no longer remember the Flash setting, and users will have to choose each session whether to activate Flash.
Early 2019
In early 2019, Firefox will show a user-visible warning on sites that continue to use Flash.
2019
A few months after the user-visible warning, Firefox will disable the Flash plugin by default. Users will not be prompted to enable Flash, but it will still be possible to activate Flash on certain sites using browser settings.
2020
In early 2020, Flash support will be completely removed from consumer versions of Firefox. The Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) will continue to support for Flash until the end of 2020.
2021
When Adobe stops shipping security updates for Flash at the end of 2020, Firefox will refuse to load the plugin.

SOURCE: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/...lugins/Roadmap

Google

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Chrome will continue phasing out Flash over the next few years, first by asking for your permission to run Flash in more situations, and eventually disabling it by default. We will remove Flash completely from Chrome toward the end of 2020.

SOURCE: https://www.blog.google/products/chr...-flash-chrome/

Microsoft

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We will phase out Flash from Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer, culminating in the removal of Flash from Windows entirely by the end of 2020. This process began already for Microsoft Edge with Click-to-Run for Flash in the Windows 10 Creators Update. The process will continue in the following phases:

Through the end of 2017 and into 2018, Microsoft Edge will continue to ask users for permission to run Flash on most sites the first time the site is visited, and will remember the user’s preference on subsequent visits. Internet Explorer will continue to allow Flash with no special permissions required during this time.
In mid to late 2018, we will update Microsoft Edge to require permission for Flash to be run each session. Internet Explorer will continue to allow Flash for all sites in 2018.
In mid to late 2019, we will disable Flash by default in both Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer. Users will be able to re-enable Flash in both browsers. When re-enabled, Microsoft Edge will continue to require approval for Flash on a site-by-site basis.
By the end of 2020, we will remove the ability to run Adobe Flash in Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer across all supported versions of Microsoft Windows. Users will no longer have any ability to enable or run Flash.

SOURCE: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/...dows-timeline/

So, it seems like they may even have timebombs added to their software that will disable support once the clock strikes EOL. Or they may push out versions once support is officially ceased. I suppose we'll still have flash enabled browsers floating around, but you'll likely need to be savvy to get it working and the normal joe is going to be flash free. It's even getting removed from Internet Explorer, which is kept for those businesses who don't like to upgrade. It will definitely be interesting to see how it all fares when the time arrives.

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal (Post 5740800)

I dunno, major browsers seem to be wholeheartedly backing this.

Outstanding!

Had heard rumblings about FF and Chrome doing this, but am genuinely surprised MS is on board. Assuming browser vendors stick to the roadmap, that's very helpful in the long term. Still reasonably sure there's going to be something backdoor for a few who demand it, but the higher the bar for entry the better.

Adobe Flash EOL? good that ancient browser plugin needs to die, it is 1990's tech that is vulnerable by its nature in that it is basically a binary blob you stick in a plugin directory, i will be glad to lay flowers on its casket at its funeral (and pee on its grave) flash is about 10 years beyond its lifespan, and thankfully HTML-5 is making Flash obsolete, let flash die a dignified death that is long overdue

oh yeah, how is slackware coming along, i hope it continues because systemD is really making a mess out of what Linux and the unix philosophy be what it is supposed to be, i want to see more non-systemd distros keep a live presence in the Linux community (i dont want to see non-systemd distros fall in to obscurity