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LuckyCyborg 01-30-2016 04:36 PM

About auto-forking the Slackware into Jurassic Linux for its beloved 90 old supporters and keeping going for rest of us...
 
I see a bunch of guys, who have earned their moneys in an active job, before retirement, as hunting mammoths somewhere around Ice Age, that they make the Law there.

Out of respect, I understand their opinions, being habituated, at maximum, with Julius Caesar speaks, that they are against to any "improvement" which any other distribution still sports since French Revolution.

That's why, I propose for The Powers That Be, to fork the Slackware into Granpa's Linuz, offering all they want, even no UDEV and kernel 1.6.3, and for rest of us, still kicking alive, to keep going as Slackware for Non Granpas.

Richard Cranium 01-30-2016 05:08 PM

That was probably funnier in your head than it was after you wrote it.

slackass 01-30-2016 05:13 PM

I'm a great grandpa and I like Slackware the way it is.

bassmadrigal 01-30-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 5490485)
That's why, I propose for The Powers That Be, to fork the Slackware into Granpa's Linuz, offering all they want, even no UDEV and kernel 1.6.3, and for rest of us, still kicking alive, to keep going as Slackware for Non Granpas.

That's why the previous releases are still made available on mirrors. But if users really want to fork, there's all the SlackBuilds available on the source tree ;)

Darth Vader 01-30-2016 05:35 PM

Not that you're wrong, after all, a bunch of retired guys are very vocal there, but I really like Jurassic Linux.

It is a perfect name for a security hardened distribution. ;)

Think about a slogan something like: designed to protect you when you're hunted by Velociraptors! :D

schmatzler 01-30-2016 08:54 PM

But "Jurassic Linux" would have to look like this:

https://jurassicsystems.com/

I'd totally use it.

frankbell 01-30-2016 09:58 PM

Your Jurassic Slackware is already over there, in the museum. If you go to many Slackware mirrors, you will find links for older versions. This one goes all the way back to v. 3.

I wouldn't run it on a bit, but YMMV.

enorbet 01-30-2016 10:31 PM

Ah the hubris of youth who so easily accept it as self-evident truth that Old == Bad, and New == Good (or at least better). This is what some brilliant advertising flunky who never got credit for it simplified into "NEW AND IMPROVED!!" the go to phrase for selling us shit. I've hired young musicians for my Rock band that refuse to listen to anything recorded before 1980 because "they have to be bad 'cuz the technology didn't exist to record well". So much for Beatles, Stones and Jimi Hendrix, eh? not to mention Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Etta James, Louis Jordan, Billy Holiday and far too many to mention. The previous is just to cover Music one area of Art co-opted by Pop that could even possibly have a case in it, yet fails.

If you examine your life and the things you love most it is likely you will find (with possibly the single most glaring exception, your smartphone) that most of them are ancient falling somewhere under Food, Shelter, Water, Air and Sex being of eternal power and irreplaceable.

Slackware does not resist change. It just resists stupid change with bad tradeoffs sort of like missing the unfolding of an event while you find a good spot for a selfie. Ah the hubris of Youth!

ReaperX7 01-31-2016 01:13 AM

If one stands next to a mountain to chop it down with the edge of his hand he make fail to see the rocks that will fall upon his head. ;)

kikinovak 01-31-2016 01:51 AM

As I wrote in a different context, Slackware may be a dinosaur, but it still takes a meteor strike to wipe it.

ttk 01-31-2016 12:58 PM

One of the oldest tools in the world is a stick, good for applying leverage.

Nowadays this most ancient of tools has been refined into the modern crowbar -- steel, sharpened and forked ends, and cleverly shaped curves to maximize utility, but it's still basically a stick. So simple that it has only one moving part, hard to break, versatile, and ultimately utilitarian.

I like to think of Slackware the same way. It's kept up with the times, but without losing sight of what's important in a tool.

WiseDraco 02-01-2016 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 5490485)
I see a bunch of guys, who have earned their moneys in an active job, before retirement, as hunting mammoths somewhere around Ice Age, that they make the Law there.

Out of respect, I understand their opinions, being habituated, at maximum, with Julius Caesar speaks, that they are against to any "improvement" which any other distribution still sports since French Revolution.

speak clear, dude.
you want say, you like to see in slackware all that "new and cool" systemd - like things?

fido_dogstoyevsky 02-01-2016 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 5490563)
Ah the hubris of youth who so easily accept it as self-evident truth that Old == Bad, and New == Good

"When I was 18, I was embarassed at how little my father knew of the world. When I was 21, I was amazed at how much he'd learned in three years."
Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 5490563)
Slackware does not resist change. It just resists stupid change with bad tradeoffs

This should be carved in granite somewhere.

colinh2 02-01-2016 07:08 AM

Whilst I don't approve of the "if you don't like it, go away and/or make your own distribution" attitude one sometimes finds (in other distributions/threads -- not on this thread) I do wonder about this sort of comment.

Presumably, they like Slackware, but just wish it were more like Ubuntu. But then it would be more like Ubuntu, and less like Slackware, wouldn't it?

NoStressHQ 02-01-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 5490485)
I see a bunch of guys, who have earned their moneys in an active job, before retirement, as hunting mammoths somewhere around Ice Age, that they make the Law there.

Out of respect, I understand their opinions, being habituated, at maximum, with Julius Caesar speaks, that they are against to any "improvement" which any other distribution still sports since French Revolution.

That's why, I propose for The Powers That Be, to fork the Slackware into Granpa's Linuz, offering all they want, even no UDEV and kernel 1.6.3, and for rest of us, still kicking alive, to keep going as Slackware for Non Granpas.

Mmmmm. The problem with babies is that they tend to mingle whim with proof...

I had this online comment the other day, where a "young" was suggesting that I didn't understand internet because I was "old"..

Well.. Do you think Denis Ritchie and Brien Kernighan have no clue on how a program should be written because they are old/dead ?

Are you the kind of person who believes internet was "invented by young people" in the 90s ??

And on another topic, do you think Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, etc are so "has been" and should be only broadcasted in european cemeteries ?

I don't know maybe you have a real, practical, and underpinned idea but the arguments you use are so...

..childish ?

Edit: you should do a fork yourself, you could name it "noobware"...


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