A very interesting post on the Debian forum regarding its future and connections with RedHat.

This is completely off-topic, but I am sick tired of web sites that should work 100% without javascript, but do not. If not for that one little issue with the sad state of web design, I'd switch to a light no-js browser so fast...

Originally Posted by ReaperX7 My grandfather told me once when I started working, "When you do what you love doing, money matters little, and if you keep doing what you love, the money will come anyway."

Well, he was half right.

Originally Posted by volkerdi Well, he was half right.

Hang in there PV! Slacks stock is going to get more attention (now where is that crystal ball emoji?).

Originally Posted by volkerdi Well, he was half right.

"Whole right" without any quantifiers or comparisons as to amount of money that follows.

But I must state a serious truth not obvious to those who have not learned it by experience: Making even a modest living doing what you love has rewards vastly superior to successful but disinterested pursuit of monetary gain.

I suspect that Reaper's Granddad, and Pat both know the truth of that!

Originally Posted by astrogeek disinterested pursuit of monetary gain

In French one of the meanings of "désintéressé" is: does not look (any more, if its debtors have already paid their debt) for a material or moral interest for self, especially does not pursue a monetary gain... One more false friend.

You could change the subscription policy to a once-a-year cost versus when-we-ship-the-dvds. Or make it an option.

I think this release has beaten your pocketbook to a bloody pulp.

Originally Posted by schmatzler That being said, if anyone knows where I can get a linux server with 750GB space, 4 threads and 8-16GB RAM with the ability to run Slackware, please shoot me a message.

online.net has been mentioned, and there's OVH with www.kimsufi.com (cheap) and www.soyoustart.com (better hardware & performance, less cheap).

OVH's installer has native support for Slackware, so getting up and running is really easy. Actually getting the server is a bit more complicated as they seen to be sold out constantly.

Regarding online.net I was under the impression that even their cheap dedis come with Java-based KVM-over-IP (KVM as in keyboard, video, mouse), so in theory you should be able to install Slackware from (virtual) CD-ROM. Maybe Kiki or Alien can elaborate...

Originally Posted by volkerdi Well, he was half right.

The glass is half full for one with greater wisdom. Never is it half empty because emptiness, even if not visible leads to downfall of the self. He who has enough, shall always have enough, even if all his has is but himself. Fullness brings about happiness, which brings the treasures of life much more consistently. Every piece of life is joyful, even in the hardest of times. Even if partial, fullness brings the aspect of greater things to come.

Patrick has spoken... Wisely. I thank ye grand sensei.

Originally Posted by Cesare Regarding online.net I was under the impression that even their cheap dedis come with Java-based KVM-over-IP (KVM as in keyboard, video, mouse), so in theory you should be able to install Slackware from (virtual) CD-ROM. Maybe Kiki or Alien can elaborate...

The "personal" servers, i.e. the SC and SX series, do not have a real KVM despite what the promo page tells you. You'll be limited in your options, all you can boot except the installed OS is a rescue (live) OS. And then use the provided serial console access to observe the boot process (but you'll have to configure your OS and the bootloader to support a serial console first).

Originally Posted by Richard Cranium You could change the subscription policy to a once-a-year cost versus when-we-ship-the-dvds. Or make it an option.

I think that changing the cost model on an established product like the Slackware DVDs is harder than it looks.

I'd quite like the idea of an option to make appropriate payments each 6 months or each quarter. Sort of hire purchase arrangement for us and would even out the cash flow for Slackware Inc. Would increase admin/chargebacks/hassle though.

Originally Posted by Cesare online.net has been mentioned, and there's OVH with www.kimsufi.com (cheap) and www.soyoustart.com (better hardware & performance, less cheap). OVH's installer has native support for Slackware, so getting up and running is really easy. Actually getting the server is a bit more complicated as they seen to be sold out constantly.

Don't use OVH. They're a disaster in terms of QoS.

Originally Posted by ReaperX7 My grandfather told me once when I started working, "When you do what you love doing, money matters little, and if you keep doing what you love, the money will come anyway."

I've heard that since I was a kid. Fortunately my much older brother gave me the best advice I've ever had: "No matter what you do for a living, you're going to end up hating it. So you might as well pick something where you're going to make a lot of money. At least then you can afford to do what you like."

Originally Posted by coldbeer I've heard that since I was a kid. Fortunately my much older brother gave me the best advice I've ever had: "No matter what you do for a living, you're going to end up hating it. So you might as well pick something where you're going to make a lot of money. At least then you can afford to do what you like."

Indeed. I wish I had listened to that kind of advice when I heard it. I know it is possible to love what you do and get paid well for it but I think those that do are just in a lucky minority. Get paid well and spend the money on what you enjoy looks to be the best bet.

Originally Posted by 273 I know it is possible to love what you do and get paid well for it but I think those that do are just in a lucky minority.

They are in a minority, but not because of luck. There is no shortage of opportunities to do what you love, but it requires effort to pursue those opportunities. Those who are in the minority are there because they expended the effort to get there.

Originally Posted by OregonJim They are in a minority, but not because of luck. There is no shortage of opportunities to do what you love, but it requires effort to pursue those opportunities. Those who are in the minority are there because they expended the effort to get there.

I completely disagree. One thing that life has taught me is that some people are just lucky. That is not to say that people who do well don't work hard or deserve the fruits of their labour -- just that, more often than not, the people who do well happen to be in the right place at the right time. To take an extreme example I don't deny that Bill Gates is a hard-working, intelligent man but I bet there's a guy right now living in squalor in the US or Europe who's just as intelligent and hard working. For the rest of us things aren't that far apart but there's still an awful lot of luck involved.