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I would welcome more testing. Specifically to see if your network card is supported by my new initrd, and whether the installation instructions are clear enough (http://docs.slackware.com/slackware:...ng_the_live_os).
Hi Eric!
I was finally able to complete the ISO download and have performed a few PXE boots with it.
First, let me compliment you on a nice piece of work, both the liveslack ISO and the docs page! Both have been solid and easy to use! When I grow up, I want to be like you!
So far, I have tested only the 64-bit ISO with PXE/BIOS boot to a Toshiba i3 laptop.
I set up the PXE/TFTP/NFS server almost exactly as written up in the linked slackdocs page (minor path changes, ISO mounted loop), added it to the default bootloader list, and booted.
It failed on the first try with "Live media was not mounted... trouble ahead", but that turned out to be a single character typo in the boot append line - one of those minor path changes...
After fixing that, it boots fine!
I tried several boots with variations of the nic parameter for dhcp and static IP on wired ethernet and all works as expected.
I like that the live user has sudo rights out of the box. I easily mounted the drive in that machine and used it to import a few configs and export some data, also via sftp to the machine I am typing from.
Here is a summary of the hardware of interest I tested on:
*** Update 2: Does not seem to work with this one...
Code:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02)
Fails after pausing several seconds at "Setting up network for NFS mount", then...
Code:
mount: RPC: Remote system error - Network unreachable
...
SLACKWARELIVE: Live media found at 192.168.0.47:/tftpboot/slackware/sw-live
SLACKWARELIVE: However, live media was not mounted... trouble ahead
...
overlayfs: unrecognized mount option lowerdir=""
...
ERROR: No /sbin/init found on rootdev
At shell, ifconfig finds no network devices. (Same result with/without nic parameters)
This same machine works fine with PXE/NFS boot of Slackware64-current install media from same server.
*** Update 2: Does not seem to work with this one...
Code:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection (rev 02)
Fails after pausing several seconds at "Setting up network for NFS mount", then...
Code:
mount: RPC: Remote system error - Network unreachable
...
SLACKWARELIVE: Live media found at 192.168.0.47:/tftpboot/slackware/sw-live
SLACKWARELIVE: However, live media was not mounted... trouble ahead
...
overlayfs: unrecognized mount option lowerdir=""
...
ERROR: No /sbin/init found on rootdev
At shell, ifconfig finds no network devices. (Same result with/without nic parameters)
This same machine works fine with PXE/NFS boot of Slackware64-current install media from same server.
Thanks for the tests! Also, good to see that there's something I still need to fix.
The most probable cause being a missing network driver or a missing kernel firmware file in the Live initrd.
Can you run the following on that machine, when it is running Linux successfully and report its output?
Thanks for your offer of providing Slackware Live (i586 edition). We are even more grateful as we know that you are going to do that on your spare time, as Eric does.
When do you plan to release it?
PS Do not feel obliged to provide a Mate edition if you don't like Mate. I expect that your scripts will be versatile and flexible enough so that users can easily modify them to add Mate. Again, as Eric's are.
Bună ziua.
Last edited by Didier Spaier; 04-17-2016 at 07:01 AM.
Oh, to understand that Slackware, as in its true incarnation, ol'good x86, is so poor received that it need my contribution to ship a stray live?
Look as how I see the things: IF I say tomorrow that the KDE6 sucks, nobody will care, especially the KDE developers.
BUT, if Eric insult the KDE developers in a small blog post, they will freak out. WHY?
Because they, as everyone, see Eric as a major Slackware contributor, maybe right hand of P.V. That's WHY they feel obliged to respond and give "reasons". You see the light?
Everyone see Eric as Knight of Slackware; not of MATE (a crap dumped for real by P.V. when it was still developed under name of Gnome2) or whatever experimental DE.
Also, when Slackware64 will be able to run even some Java based programs like Android Studio without multilib, I will will to take a look. Until then, I consider it some experimental tree.
Also, when I asked Eric why he don't ship Slackware (i586) Live ISOs claimed that he don't have resources for.
Still, looks like he have enough resources to ship those questionable (as interest) ISOs, using more space (and bandwidth?) than a stray Slackware (i586) Live... Ironic, much?
I was instructed to stop to post there and to follow that forum, as being not (even somewhat) useful for the Company where I work.
Yet, I can't stop to notice that your LIVE-SYSTEM is 64 ONLY, still now.
What a shame, you have resources to ship KDE5 or (questionable) MATE ISOs, BUT, you gracious ignore the Slackware i586.
Is Slackware i586 dead now, after you?
I find insulting to see MATE ISOs for, but NO Slackware (i586) ones. Even a freaking one.
All the best!
I wonder why I am being held accountable by you for what I do in my free time? Why do you think you can force me to do something for you?
It's all fairly simple and you could have answered it yourself if you had read my blog posts on the subject (I assume that your company does not forbid you to read those).
During the development of my liveslak scripts I only release 32-bit OS versions. Creating 32bit ISO images is:
time-consuming (time I rather spend on compiling packages)
uses lots and lots of server disk space (which I do not have)
not essential for testing the liveslak scripts
Note that the liveslak scripts will just as easily create a 32bit Slackware Live Edition; this has been tested by several people including myself.
All you need to do is add "-a i486" to the "make_slackware_live.sh" commandline.
Do not start moaning about that "i486" - you can use "i586" if you like that better, it makes no difference for the Slackware Live ISO.
On the official release date of Slackware 14.2 I will make available a version 1.0 of my liveslak scripts, and create 64bit as well as 32bit versions of the Slackware 14.2 Live Edition (full Slackware).
The other variants (XFCE, MATE, PLASMA5) will probably only be available as 64bit ISO simply because I lack disk space and time.
Also, when I asked Eric why he don't ship Slackware (i586) Live ISOs claimed that he don't have resources for.
Still, looks like he have enough resources to ship those questionable (as interest) ISOs, using more space (and bandwidth?) than a stray Slackware (i586) Live... Ironic, much?
You're being a real dickhead now. MATE and CINNAMON are desktop environments that curious people want to see on top of Slackware. So, I provide a way to include these in the Live ISO. Note that I do not compile these packages nor do I own those repositories.
Final statement: I do not take orders from you about what I must or must not do. Read my previous post. And then just fuck off.
For the record, MATE runs great on top of a full installation of Slackware. I have been testing MATE 1.14 on Slackware 14.2 RC1 and RC2 for the last few days. Everything is running smoothly and quickly. I am liking it so much that I may drop Xfce (I've been running Xfce for about 8 years) in favor of MATE.
Willy is doing an excellent job at providing a quality MATE desktop.
MATE and CINNAMON are desktop environments that curious people want to see on top of Slackware. So, I provide a way to include these in the Live ISO.
Nice to know! I understand well your POV. People are curious.
But how about those curious people which want to see Slackware. You know, that old good Slackware, the real Slackware, even able to run Skype or Android Studio without additional packages, replacing GLIBC and studying 3 months the forums into Internet for configuration?
Last edited by Darth Vader; 04-17-2016 at 08:12 AM.
For the record, MATE runs great on top of a full installation of Slackware. I have been testing MATE 1.14 on Slackware 14.2 RC1 and RC2 for the last few days. Everything is running smoothly and quickly. I am liking it so much that I may drop Xfce (I've been running Xfce for about 8 years) in favor of MATE.
Willy is doing an excellent job at providing a quality MATE desktop.
While I hate with passion all what is Gnome (incarnations), probably you will agree that that "quality MATE desktop" will be very nice alternative to XFCE, for those who still have a Pentium 4, and not willing to upgrade. Specially for them, right?
You don't consider that shipping only a 64 version of that "quality MATE desktop" is a shoot in his self leg for our brave Indonesian?
While I hate with passion all what is Gnome (incarnations), probably you will agree that that "quality MATE desktop" will be very nice alternative to XFCE, for those who still have a Pentium 4, and not willing to upgrade. Specially for them, right?
You don't consider that shipping only a 64 version of that "quality MATE desktop" is a shoot in his self leg for our brave Indonesian?
It should be quite easy for Slackware-current users to build all the x86 MATE packages for 1.14. https://github.com/mateslackbuilds/msb/tree/1.14 Slackware 14.1 has both MATE 1.12 x86 and x86_64 available too. I am sure Willy will provide the x86 packages for 1.14 when Slackware 14.2 is at final release. There is a reason the url says: http://slackware.uk/msb/testing/
I don't mean to argue, but you do realize that most people are providing all these packages on their free time? They don't work for you.
Long story short, looks like a knight is expected to do proud knightly things, not to be found in whatever tavern drinking with some MATE and even paying for.
You know, that old good Slackware, the real Slackware
Better get used real fast that there is no truth in "32bit is the real Slackware". You mean that Windows 10 is in fact a bastardization of the real Microsoft DOS?
Slackware is a distro which comes in several flavors, and 32bit (while being the oldest) is just one.
Let me ask you this, expecting that your answer will again be full of drama and bold text:
Are your computers 64bit capable? Have you downloaded one of my Live ISOs and tried them out? Note the "try out"? The goal of liveslak is provide a first hand view to people who are curious about Slackware (because they are not running it themselves) or are curious about slackware-current (because they want a stable release on the harddisk of their computer). That's it: trial runs without the need to sacrifice a computer's own installed OS.
Have you tried it?
Well?
You will notice that I do not provide Skype, or Steam, on any of my Live ISOs. What is it that you expect to find on a 32bit Live ISO which is not present on the 64bit version?
Oh, you want to install Slackware from the Live ISO? You want to install it from my Live ISO and are insulted because I do not spend hours to provide a 32bit ISO for you?
When can I expect your first payment for the services I am offering to you? Oh right, it's Romania where everything must be obtained for free and nothing is given in return (or deleted to ensure that no one else can keep using what you made if you abandon it).
Thanks for ruining my peaceful sunday. Moron.
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