KDE and XFCE releases maturity

Originally Posted by kikinovak This concept already exists.

Kiki, its a Slackware thread. Otherwise we could mention how openSUSE is also quite late on some security updates, in particular Firefox always being weeks if not months behind other distros...Did Leap get 68.3 yet? Have they settled on a new name? Will the next release be 45?

Originally Posted by ChuangTzu Kiki, its a Slackware thread. Otherwise we could mention how openSUSE is also quite late on some security updates, in particular Firefox always being weeks if not months behind other distros...Did Leap get 68.3 yet? Have they settled on a new name? Will the next release be 45?

User Slackovado came up with the idea of a rolling release on top of a stable base system. So I merely pointed out to him that the concept already exists out there. Leap is built on top of an SLES base system.

Originally Posted by Lysander666 A couple of us here moved over to 4.14 for a short while and moved back.

Perhaps PV is in testing mode with 4.14. Interesting times ahead.

I am very pleased that my little experiment in removing akonadi and all the kdepim packages had no adverse affects on KDE AFAIK, no more Akonadi(notice akonadi process not found ), I am very pleased - and now even impressed with KDE after giving it another look after years of me not using it after the 3.x series. Still hopefully Plasma5 will come soon and be as light as this; I may just decide to use it in place of LXQT (already looking to leave LXDE since it is essentially dead(?))

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Main gripe - is that stupid floating desktop widget I don't know why it is there, I don't want it; I wish it would go away.

Originally Posted by kikinovak So I merely pointed out to him that the concept already exists out there. Leap is built on top of an SLES base system.

But is not a rolling release, it has real release version numbers (which are the same as the SLES version it's based on).
openSUSE Tumblewood, on the other hand, is a pure rolling release, not built on top of a stabe one.

So Leap is like CentOS and Tumblewood (a bit) like Fedora in the RHEL universe.

Originally Posted by Jeebizz Main gripe - is that stupid floating desktop widget I don't know why it is there, I don't want it; I wish it would go away.

In Plasma 5 you can right click on the desktop, open "Configure Desktop" from the menu, go to the "Tweaks" tab, and unselect "Show the desktop toolbox" to get rid of that. It's been a while since I've used KDE4 but it was a similar process to get rid of that thing.

Originally Posted by 0XBF In Plasma 5 you can right click on the desktop, open "Configure Desktop" from the menu, go to the "Tweaks" tab, and unselect "Show the desktop toolbox" to get rid of that. It's been a while since I've used KDE4 but it was a similar process to get rid of that thing.

Not in this version it seems, no such option - I remember why I instantly got annoyed with KDE4 - less so now though that at least I know it works without Akonadi, and there is still the matter of desktop icons, where the hell are they....

Originally Posted by Jeebizz ......less so now though that at least I know it works without Akonadi, and there is still the matter of desktop icons, where the hell are they....

For years one of the first things I do after completing a fresh installation is removepkg akonadi, even if I have no plans to use kde. BTW, removepkg does NOT remove the akonadi files in /usr/bin/, you have to remove them "by hand."
I've used both kde-4 and kde-5, and, from a visual point, I greatly prefer kde-4. The one thing I do like about kde-5, is its ability to let you pick a gtk theme for your gtk applications. There are a few things I don't like about kde-5 and the one that annoys me the most is it will scramble your Xfce theme settings. For the last several days I've been back with Xfce-4.12 and think I'll stay with it.

Originally Posted by cwizardone For years one of the first things I do after completing a fresh installation is removepkg akonadi, even if I have no plans to use kde. BTW, removepkg does NOT remove the akonadi files in /usr/bin/, you have to remove them "by hand." I've used both kde-4 and kde-5, and, from a visual point, I greatly prefer kde-4. The one thing I do like about kde-5, is its ability to let you pick a gtk theme for your gtk applications. There are a few things I don't like about kde-5 and the one that annoys me the most is it will scramble your Xfce theme settings. For the last several days I've been back with Xfce-4.12 and think I'll stay with it.

I am sure a DE/WM screws something up for some other DE/WM, even MATE might screw over some settings for say KDE and vice-versa. As for XFCE, it is nice but I do not like the use of XML for the menus as they complicate things, and you need a tool just to properly edit menus. As of now, my choices kinda changed - I am waiting to see how MATE 1.22 will work on 15.0, and again I am now more open to KDE as at least one of my issues were resolved(akonadi gone); but I am still waiting for Plasma5 to finally be adopted soon because as of now I have been clicking around for minutes and I still have no way to remove that stupid desktop widget ugh!

KDE 5 would definitely be a nice addition for those with HiDPI screens. Surprising that XFCE 4.14 is still out too.

Originally Posted by Jeebizz way to remove that stupid desktop widget

Exit KDE to command prompt; move the plasma-toolbox desktop service files out of /usr/share/kde4/services; restart KDE. Before and after shots attached, HTH.
I am back posting from 14.2 'cause I hosed my network setup on current. That was fun.

Funner: it helps networking when the static ip is not set as the gateway LOL redface. Also too, I upgraded to latest from AlienBOb... woo! Posting from Falkon, this is actually the very first time I ever used that imgur service thingy, I think. Too easy.

https://i.imgur.com/3OnaYCy.png

Not very pretty that, so I edited this post instead of adding to the My Slackware Desktop thread. Just wanted to say wow, this is nice for being so junked up with all the "new" stuff from the different repos, plus SBo. Very nice and nothing has crashed or made me shake my fist and yell at the clouds. Thanks a lot.

Originally Posted by kikinovak User Slackovado came up with the idea of a rolling release on top of a stable base system. So I merely pointed out to him that the concept already exists out there. Leap is built on top of an SLES base system.

I recently tried to convert a confidential PDF to JPEG using ImageMagick on three OpenSUSE Leap 15.1 systems.

convert test.pdf test.jpg

Failed each time. No such failure on Slackware, either 14.2 or current.

Is that an exotic task? I don't think so. Converting a PDF to JPEG using ImageMagick is something you'd expect Leap to do, since it's heavily promoted as a gateway to SLES.

Arguments on both sides, of course, but the idea Leap 15 is flawless, stable and enterprise-ready is a delusion.