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Old 06-03-2019, 05:50 AM   #1
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Internet kill switch


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...et-kill-switch

https://www.fastcompany.com/90358396...-or-use-the-ac
 
Old 06-03-2019, 06:54 AM   #2
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I was grimly amused by the problems "nest" users faced. Suddenly their door locks, thermostats and baby monitors stopped working. Serves them right! The Internet of Things is an expensive scam designed to put you at someone else's mercy.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 06:56 AM   #3
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Hmm, apparently people now think Google == Internet.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 07:11 AM   #4
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Well it kind of does, that and Amazon. Everything is running on "the cloud". Everyone has their data stored on "the cloud". Wnat happens if the cloud gets turned off.

I can't imagine running my home off of the internet and have no manual way to open the door lock or turn the thermostat on. What if that happened in January when it was -10F(-23C).
 
Old 06-03-2019, 07:13 AM   #5
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Internet kill switch
I doubt it. It's was more likely a "test firing" of the "internet toilet flush" - look:

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google cloud is down
google compute engine is down
gmail is down
google drive is down
nest is down
youtube is down
snapchat is down
uber is down
nextDNS is down
Pokemon Go is down
App Engine is down
(Though I'd imagine that lot would take quite a few flushes...)
 
Old 06-03-2019, 08:20 AM   #6
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Why do persons who politically oppose big business and big corporations trust those same businesses and corporations to store their data? No cloud for me.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 09:15 AM   #7
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Quote:
google cloud is down
google compute engine is down
gmail is down
google drive is down
nest is down
youtube is down
snapchat is down
uber is down
nextDNS is down
Pokemon Go is down
App Engine is down
A list of events that passed completely unnoticed by this web user here...
 
Old 06-03-2019, 09:26 AM   #8
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Yeah, I didn't notice anything either.
 
Old 06-03-2019, 08:34 PM   #9
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The Internet of Things is an expensive scam designed to put you at someone else's mercy.
I think that is partially true. I think the other part is persons who haven't learned that because you can is not in and of itself a sufficient reason to do so. I think the persons who created the internetting things were doing it because they could; what they have succeeded in doing is creating an entire new population of unthinking suckers.
 
Old 06-09-2019, 03:16 PM   #10
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I was grimly amused by the problems "nest" users faced. Suddenly their door locks, thermostats and baby monitors stopped working. Serves them right! The Internet of Things is an expensive scam designed to put you at someone else's mercy.
My family got some IOT things, I hate it.... it's creepy and the lights don't work when the internet goes out >(
 
Old 06-10-2019, 07:23 AM   #11
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My family got some IOT things, I hate it.... it's creepy and the lights don't work when the internet goes out >(
I once said "the world doesn't exist if the internet goes down"... and I thought I was joking.
 
Old 06-10-2019, 07:20 PM   #12
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I think the title of the article says it all.

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Did The Government Just Test The Internet Kill Switch?
I think it was a test. Also, it should be a warning to all of us; especially to those who use the 'internet of things.'

This is a reason why some folks have all of their important information on an external drive and that they update aforementioned external drive on a daily basis with the information that they cannot afford to lose.
 
Old 06-11-2019, 08:03 AM   #13
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From a technical standpoint, and if you look at what "the Internet" actually is; the term "Internet kill switch" doesn't make a lot of sense. Unless you took out the Internet "backbones", it would be near, if not, impossible to "kill the Internet". Even if you took out one backbone, it wouldn't take out the entire Internet. You only need to do a little research on this to see what I mean, this thread on Superuser gives a reasonable idea of that.

But it would be quite possible by someone who's knowledgeable enough to take down individual websites. Although, I'd agree with cynwulf in saying it would indeed take quite a few "flushes" to take down Google for one...

From a non-technical standpoint; I don't see what interest governments would have to "kill the Internet" when they themselves rely on it as much as anyone else does. They use it for much the same purposes as anyone else does. Although, they would be very interested in (and do) spying on people using it - for the simple reason that almost everyone uses it. Who sends paper mail these days? But most people do go to "social media" sites and put their life on public display, and do send emails, etc, etc.

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I once said "the world doesn't exist if the internet goes down"... and I thought I was joking.
For a lot of people (particularly on "social media" sites), very sad, but very true.

Particularly in our backwards country...
 
Old 06-11-2019, 09:11 AM   #14
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The truth of the matter is in this statement:
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Hmm, apparently people now think Google == Internet.
And in the mix up / conflation of "internet"/"WWW" terms. It probably shows, along with all the crap, those two links are requesting from various "junk" adware/tracking sites, that it's just another case of clickbait articles.

For many the disappearance of google, faecebook, et al really does mean "no internet".

Last edited by cynwulf; 06-11-2019 at 09:12 AM.
 
Old 06-12-2019, 11:29 AM   #15
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I didn't notice.

I don't use google, facebook, etc. I still like forums and enable javascript I shouldn't and correspond with gmail addresses belonging to people who don't know any better even though I do.

Humans are pack animals. I don't like myself when I spend too much time alone inside my own head. It helped a lot to get a dog after my son died. The second pooch in our pack has her own baggage so that's a good outlet for "wanting to help" feelings.

In my localville, when I say, "I use Linux." they say "What's Linux?" and when I tell them, they dismiss me as a babbling nutcase.

So I have learned to say "I don't have a phone.", "I don't have a facebook.", "That's okay.", "Never mind.", "I don't want one.", "It's too complicated.","I already spent all my money on dog food", and "I'll see you around."

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