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Old Yesterday, 12:15 PM   #91
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And there are also people who will choose to burn themselves up on a street corner outside a courthouse, for absolutely no lasting reason at all . . .

"Now they are dead, after a suitable period of personal agony," and nobody cares nor remembers.
Those are the ones that just burn, they do not distribute pamphlets or manifestos first.
This guy had a point. He may have been crazy, but it made sense to HIM.
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring

Putin is winning because Ukranian soldiers are leaving the front in droves lately.
Can't fight when you run out of ammo.

My favorite post in this thread so far.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6497105
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring

Putin is winning because Ukranian soldiers are leaving the front in droves lately.
Can't fight when you run out of ammo.

My favorite post in this thread so far.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6497105
We will see how long it takes for that to turn around once Congress gives permission to send aid. It passed the house, will take another day in the Senate, and Biden will not wait long to sign it.
 
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@wpeckham: The US Congress is once again promising to send money. But the combined ammunition-production capacity of EU and USA is simply not enough ... by a factor of 10 ... to counter the amount of ammunition, weapons, and other gear that Russia can steadily produce and deliver to the front. (Over its own territory ...)

Modern warfare is very much a contest of industrial production. (And, not just of "military stuff.") Eighty years ago, the USA was a self-sufficient "Arsenal of Democracy." But, "eighty years ago" turns out to be a very long time. And, having "de-industrialized" in favor of [Chinese] imports, you cannot now simply snap your fingers and change things. Nor can you pass another spending bill and change things.

Unfortunately, a certain General who wore five stars on his lapel saw this all coming. He tried to warn us what would happen if "war" became a lucrative (and, top-secret) "industrial product." He foresaw that we would lose sight of what "real war" actually is, and lose our ability to fight one. But he did not foresee that the nation would utterly decimate its own industrial capacity.

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@wpeckham: The US Congress is once again promising to send money. But the combined ammunition-production capacity of EU and USA is simply not enough ... by a factor of 10 ... to counter the amount of ammunition, weapons, and other gear that Russia can steadily produce and deliver to the front. (Over its own territory ...)
That is not true. We are sending mostly arms and ammunition, and replacing those in our inventory with new equipment and munitions. One of the Generals answered questions about how fast they could get new shipments of arms to Ukraine, and told the reporter we "have long had a logistical system optimized for delivery anywhere in the world". We need such systems in times when we are directly involved in a conflict, but they work very well even when we are not.
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Modern warfare is very much a contest of industrial production. (And, not just of "military stuff.") Eighty years ago, the USA was a self-sufficient "Arsenal of Democracy." But, "eighty years ago" turns out to be a very long time. And, having "de-industrialized" in favor of [Chinese] imports, you cannot now simply snap your fingers and change things. Nor can you pass another spending bill and change things.
As far as I know, none of our military arms or munitions are sourced from China. They do not meet GSA standards as a supplier.
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Unfortunately, a certain General who wore five stars on his lapel saw this all coming. He tried to warn us what would happen if "war" became a lucrative (and, top-secret) "industrial product." He foresaw that we would lose sight of what "real war" actually is, and lose our ability to fight one. But he did not foresee that the nation would utterly decimate its own industrial capacity.
I have been ranting against exporting production of things we need for security purposes (including military) to nations that may not be friendly in the event of conflict. Three previous POTUSs made trade deals that DECIMATED the US Steel industry while I was working to support it. We exported expertise to several other nations and in return they produced cheap still and dumped it on the US market driving US steel companies out of business.

We have only one left that belongs to US citizens, the rest are all gone or under foreign ownership.

You cannot fight and win in an aluminum tank.
The good news is that this is ramping up our own production and improving the quality of US arms and arms production rapidly.
 
  


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