LinuxQuestions.org
Welcome to the most active Linux Forum on the web.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Virtualization and Cloud
User Name
Password
Linux - Virtualization and Cloud This forum is for the discussion of all topics relating to Linux Virtualization and Linux Cloud platforms. Xen, KVM, OpenVZ, VirtualBox, VMware, Linux-VServer and all other Linux Virtualization platforms are welcome. OpenStack, CloudStack, ownCloud, Cloud Foundry, Eucalyptus, Nimbus, OpenNebula and all other Linux Cloud platforms are welcome. Note that questions relating solely to non-Linux OS's should be asked in the General forum.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 05-17-2021, 01:19 PM   #1
linux69
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 21

Rep: Reputation: 0
Alternative to ESXi 5.1


Hi
I've been running ESXi 5.1 on an old computer for a few years now. I had Windows 8.1 mostly but sometimes I put other OS to experiment with them. Now the drives are running out of space. I tried to migrate to larger hard drives using Macrium, but that didn't work. Now I am looking to move over to something completely open source and preferably Linux based so it is light. I also would like to be able to run Windows VMs on it as well as linux. If there is something that will allow me to import my ESXi VMs that would be great, but not a big problem. I can just reinstall and copy my database.

What would be a good alternative. I can provide the machine specs later today, but it is 8 years old.

I see KVM and Xen are popular options, but the reason I am here is I want to make sure that whatever I pick I don't find myself stuck with limitations down the line.

Thanks
 
Old 05-17-2021, 01:25 PM   #2
dc.901
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2018
Location: Atlanta, GA - USA
Distribution: CentOS/RHEL, openSuSE/SLES, Ubuntu
Posts: 928

Rep: Reputation: 338Reputation: 338Reputation: 338Reputation: 338
Quote:
Originally Posted by linux69 View Post
Hi
I've been running ESXi 5.1 on an old computer for a few years now. I had Windows 8.1 mostly but sometimes I put other OS to experiment with them. Now the drives are running out of space. I tried to migrate to larger hard drives using Macrium, but that didn't work. Now I am looking to move over to something completely open source and preferably Linux based so it is light. I also would like to be able to run Windows VMs on it as well as linux. If there is something that will allow me to import my ESXi VMs that would be great, but not a big problem. I can just reinstall and copy my database.

What would be a good alternative. I can provide the machine specs later today, but it is 8 years old.

I see KVM and Xen are popular options, but the reason I am here is I want to make sure that whatever I pick I don't find myself stuck with limitations down the line.

Thanks
I've used VirtualBox for several years now (on RPM based distributions - RH/SuSE). No problems that I have encountered so far (figures crossed - hopefully didn't jinx myself )

I've not had to try this but checkout this document for migration from VMWare to Virtualbox:
https://www.maketecheasier.com/conve...re-virtualbox/
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-17-2021, 04:21 PM   #3
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 21,237

Rep: Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451
Proxmox VE
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-17-2021, 09:32 PM   #4
linux69
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 21

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by jefro View Post
Proxmox VE
Thanks. This looks like exactly what I am looking for. Based on what I read it seems to run on its own without requiring an OS and the hardware requirements seem to match what I have on my old PC. The problem I had the last time I tried to install ESXi was that they needed a true server hardware not a regular workstation.

As promised, my hardware below:
Dell Optiplex 960
Intel Core Quad Q9400 @2.66GHz
5G RAM DDR2 800MHz
Intel EM64T
2NICs
 
Old 05-17-2021, 10:36 PM   #5
jefro
Moderator
 
Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 21,237

Rep: Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451Reputation: 3451
Yes, ESXI did have some very strict requirement. Think they relaxed them a bit. I haven't used proxmox in a while but it was really good back when.

Let us know how it goes.
 
Old 05-18-2021, 12:39 AM   #6
rkelsen
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2004
Distribution: slackware
Posts: 3,190
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450
Quote:
Originally Posted by linux69 View Post
The problem I had the last time I tried to install ESXi was that they needed a true server hardware not a regular workstation.
That must have been several years ago, because it has not been true for a long time. I've been running ESXi on a NUC (i5 laptop CPU) since mid-2015.

They will let you download and use the latest version for free on a standalone computer. The cost comes in when you want to cluster a bunch of ESXi servers manage them centrally.

The thing I don't like about ProxMox is that it's based upon Debian... and Debian uses systemd... which is less than ideal where high levels of stability are required.

Even if it didn't have that flaw, I'd probably stick with ESXi simply because it has proven itself to be damn near bulletproof. After ~6 years of hammering it daily, I've never once seen a failure that was caused by ESXi. It just keeps on truckin'.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-18-2021, 08:22 AM   #7
linux69
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 21

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Now I am tempted to try ESXi again It is also linux based from what it seems to me. If it runs on my hardware that would be nice.
 
Old 05-19-2021, 09:43 PM   #8
rkelsen
Senior Member
 
Registered: Sep 2004
Distribution: slackware
Posts: 3,190
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450Reputation: 1450
Re-reading what I wrote, I certainly did not intend for it to come across as the sales pitch it seems to be.

From what I've read, it most certainly is not Linux based, but it is compatible with Linux userland and can use (for example) NIC drivers written for Linux.
 
Old 05-20-2021, 10:18 PM   #9
linux69
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 21

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by rkelsen View Post
Re-reading what I wrote, I certainly did not intend for it to come across as the sales pitch it seems to be.

From what I've read, it most certainly is not Linux based, but it is compatible with Linux userland and can use (for example) NIC drivers written for Linux.
It doesn't really matter. I am here for the best solution that suits me, not necessarily a linux one. I did check the requirements of ESXi, but it doesn't seem compatible with my hardware. I hope proxmox is. It will be my weekend project.
 
Old 06-05-2021, 11:01 AM   #10
mredc
Member
 
Registered: May 2016
Location: USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu
Posts: 47

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
I have managed to run ESXI on a computer with the following specs:

Dell OptiPlex 755
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8600 @ 3.33GHz
8 GB RAM

I installed ESXI to a USB thumb drive and used my internal disks as vmfs volumes to store my virtual machines. Depending on how many drives you can add to your machine you can always add more storage and also with ESXI you can attach virtual hard drives to your virtual machine across different storage volumes. You have all kinds of options.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 01:02 PM   #11
linux69
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 21

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Which ESXi are you using? I ended up using the same one I had before. I initially started with Proxmox and was able to migrate my old esxi vm, but then it would crash right after login, so I decided to play it safe and use the same environment I was using. The only thing I don't like is I wanted to have my data drive in raw format, so if the VM crashes I can just take the data and access it from any computer. I don't want to get in too much detail because it is no longer a linux question at this point.
 
Old 06-06-2021, 10:06 PM   #12
mredc
Member
 
Registered: May 2016
Location: USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu
Posts: 47

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
I originally installed ESXi 5.1 on the system but it has been updated to ESXi 6.0 Update 2. It's been running for years. I am not really sure of how long.
 
Old 11-24-2021, 09:59 PM   #13
Vmwaretyu
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Sep 2021
Location: HK
Posts: 5

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Recommend Xen, an open source virtual machine used by many people now

VirtualBox - open source software and has many benefits. I have used VirtualBox and I will never use VMware again. VirtualBox advantages:

Open source software, free
Much smaller than VMware
Simple and practical installation and configuration, active community
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LXer: Upgrade/Migrate VMware ESX/ESXi 4.x To ESXi 5.0 LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 09-11-2011 04:10 PM
RAID card for vmware esxi, and some other esxi questions JustinHoMi Linux - Enterprise 1 06-04-2010 04:57 PM
Kernel Panic with Kernel 2.6.27.5-41.fc9.x86_64 on VMWare ESXi Server d.zinzius Fedora 0 11-21-2008 08:21 AM
[SOLVED] Screen Resolution reverts when not root - CentOS guest on VMWare ESXi Sean1e Linux - Software 2 10-22-2008 12:54 PM
LXer: VMware to give away ESXi for free LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 07-25-2008 01:12 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Virtualization and Cloud

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:16 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration