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Old 10-10-2019, 09:29 PM   #16
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When I visit my boy in Austin Texas.

I am in used computer parts heaven
 
Old 10-11-2019, 01:29 AM   #17
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I have also given up on all those fancy options and went for a simple, no-nonsense Logitech MK120 combo.
+1.

Cheap, decent quality, works well and doesn't need batteries. You can't beat it.
 
Old 10-11-2019, 07:56 AM   #18
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I didn't mean to cast any doubts on the quality of my fairly simple and fairly cheap ($33) Logitech M500. For everything but intense gaming settings it is an excellent mouse. It handles games just fine for casual gamers which means it is built ruggedly and because it is simple, it has fewer failure points than some more expensive "bells and whistles" mice. It also possesses "a nice hand" in other words very comfortable with reduced wrist stress in long sessions.
Okay. So I like the look of the M500, so I will grab that one and check back.

P.S. Goodwill near me amazingly didn't have any working mice bobdangit.
 
Old 10-11-2019, 11:25 AM   #19
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I have two Logitech M100s. They are nice, but the buttons become bouncy after a few years. It is worth spending $10 on a new one.
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I have a Logitech G90, works great and was cheap enough.
I had a problem with a trusty old keyboard finally worn out
a few months ago. I thought it was a software problem at first
because it would hang the system sometimes.
Different keyboard fixed it.
 
Old Today, 05:25 AM   #21
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This is definitely not an issue as modern UDEV combined with Xorg disables any previous mouse configurations from yesteryear such as in "etc/X11/xorg.conf". You can verify this in "/var/log/Xorg.0.log". You will see a line in that log where any previous config is disabled and ignored. Here's an example

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### Xorg.0.log
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[    70.347] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[    70.400] (==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
[    70.400] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
[    70.400] (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
[    70.400] (**) |   |-->Device "Device0"
[    70.400] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
[    70.400] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
I think what you see here is that X tries /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, although, that isn't specified directly in the log) and then if items aren't specified, then they go to the defaults that are in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/.

You can find the order it searches in under man xorg.conf. But for a standard user the most common locations would be in the following order:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
/usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
 
Old Today, 09:12 AM   #22
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I think what you see here is that X tries /etc/X11/xorg.conf (and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, although, that isn't specified directly in the log) and then if items aren't specified, then they go to the defaults that are in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/.

You can find the order it searches in under man xorg.conf. But for a standard user the most common locations would be in the following order:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
/usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
Thanks but I don't understand. Since first in line is "etc/X11/xorg.conf" where Mouse and Keyboard are specified in mine, why doesn't it conform to that hierarchy? I can't recall where I read it but I have seen where the offspring of Hotplug have taken precedence ever since they were included. I'll look for any conflicts but the question remains.
 
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I ordered the M500, so I'm a couple of days we'll find out if that was my issue.
 
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Just looked at ,open box sales, of logic tech mk120 combo for sale on ebay at 14 bucks.
Says more than 10 avaiable also.
I'll leave out the link. But, item number is
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eBay item number:
293113688722
 
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Thanks but I don't understand. Since first in line is "etc/X11/xorg.conf" where Mouse and Keyboard are specified in mine, why doesn't it conform to that hierarchy? I can't recall where I read it but I have seen where the offspring of Hotplug have taken precedence ever since they were included. I'll look for any conflicts but the question remains.
So, in researching this, it seems that the "hotplugging is on, blah will be disabled" is due to switching to libinput. The legacy drivers of kbd, mouse, and vmmouse are no longer used by default and X disables them. I did check in (at least an older version of) -current's Xorg, and it doesn't even show that error, so it might've been something that was used during a transition time or may be due to you using settings in your xorg.conf for the keyboard or mouse without disabling the libinput (since I believe libinput would take precedence over the legacy drivers).

But in general, stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ will take precedence over the default configs in /usr/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/.
 
  


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