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Old 10-02-2006, 02:38 PM   #1
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Microsoft denies security companies Vista kernel


http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/02/news...ion=2006100214

Some bits of it (for those too lazy to click the link):
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McAfee (up $0.00 to $24.46, Charts), Symantec (down $0.49 to $20.79, Charts) and other security software companies argue Microsoft's new Vista operating system will make it more difficult to protect customers because for the first time, they have been denied access to the core of the operating system.

They say they are denied access to the heart of the operating system through built-in software locks, which makes it much harder to protect.

"Microsoft is being completely unrealistic if, by locking security companies out of the kernel [core], it thinks hackers won't crack Vista's kernel. In fact, they already have," the advert in the Financial Times read.

Microsoft disagrees.

"Partners are at the core of Microsoft's business model. We have worked closely with our security partners throughout the development of Windows Vista, and continue to do so," it said.
Kinda like trying to fix a car with the engine hood closed.
 
Old 10-02-2006, 05:29 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by angryfirelord
Kinda like trying to fix a car with the engine hood closed.
And tied, chained and locked, with big locks, and welded shut.
 
Old 10-02-2006, 06:01 PM   #3
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Kinda like trying to fix a car with the engine hood closed.
That's ok. Unlike every other OS Microsoft has made, Vista won't ever need any fixing. It's perfect. ((Dripping with sarcasm))
 
Old 10-02-2006, 08:52 PM   #4
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*cough*

Well anyways, Norton is such a resource hog I don't see how they planned on running it in the resource monster known as Vista in the first place. Without, of course, slowing the computer down to a literal crawl.

Last edited by powerwindows; 10-02-2006 at 10:18 PM.
 
Old 10-03-2006, 04:43 AM   #5
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That Winodws Live stuff is an insane $50. Good thing I can better protection for free (AVG, Spybot, Filseclab) for Windows.

Norton gets high virus detection, but it's not worth it if it takes forever to do a scan.
 
Old 10-05-2006, 10:46 PM   #6
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basically saying they're good friends, but the friends arn't invited to the party
 
Old 10-10-2006, 06:13 AM   #7
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Thats funny...... from now only crackers get to access the kernel....pretty secure huh????
 
Old 10-12-2006, 10:28 AM   #8
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Why do they do that?What do want to achieve by that?
 
Old 10-12-2006, 10:36 AM   #9
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"Microsoft is being completely unrealistic if, by locking security companies out of the kernel [core], it thinks hackers won't crack Vista's kernel. In fact, they already have," the advert in the Financial Times read.

Bwahahahahaha... when the family starts feuding, it's time for the vultures to swoop in on the kill

This is just the beginning...

WE ARE...... taking over the wooooooooooooooooorlllld...
:insert dramatic musical score:

 
Old 10-12-2006, 10:54 AM   #10
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as what i had suspected all the while ... but still not too sure about it ...

i did say let them fight among themselves while we delete all of their stuffs and install linux ... if for some reasons we feel like buying something , make sure all of the money go to those who provide a "free" world while we just squat on and use it to our heart content ...


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Old 10-12-2006, 12:00 PM   #11
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...This is just the beginning...
WE ARE...... taking over the wooooooooooooooooorlllld...
LMAO
man... you are sick...
Share to me a little semi-isolated island with internet conection you can take over the rest of the world for yourself LOL

"Linux prevails"
 
Old 10-22-2006, 12:02 PM   #12
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This is typical of Microsoft when they want to control a specific market. Think OneCARE...
 
Old 10-22-2006, 04:39 PM   #13
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Anyone wanna make an anti-microsoft site?
http://www.microshaft.com/ http://windowsquestions.org/ etc.
 
Old 10-26-2006, 10:39 AM   #14
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An anti-Microsoft site? It's been done ...

These "security" companies ought to be sweating bullets anyway, because ..
  • their products are just-as-likely to be the hole through which a virus enters.
  • the only truly effective way to stop a virus is to structure system such that ordinary user programs do not have permission to run highly-privileged tasks.
Let's face it: Windows is vulnerable because everyone runs as an Administrator. Don't have to, they just do.

Microsoft isn't going to keep letting Apple sit there saying that "Windows has 114,000 viruses and we have none." Believe me, they can't afford to. Words like this (from http://www.apple.com/getamac/viruses.html) don't help McAfee's position either:
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Connecting a PC to the Internet using factory settings is like leaving your front door wide open with your valuables out on the coffee table. A Mac, on the other hand, shuts and locks the door, hides the key, and stores your valuables in a safe with a combination known only to you. You have to buy, configure, and maintain such basic protection on a PC.
I suspect that Microsoft has (finally) given those "security" companies their travelling papers. What we Linux-oids have known for a bunch of years has finally become a competitive issue. (And oh by the way, have you compared Apple's market performance to Microsoft's... lately?)
 
  


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