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Old 03-10-2017, 04:30 PM   #1
Ru1138
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Cool Mageia 5.1: a rocky start today, but I think I'm falling in love!


I've tried Mageia on and off for years now. Last experience I remember was Mageia 2 which had a sweet wallpaper that I loved.

I stopped for years as I had gotten used to *buntu distros (including Mint, Netrunner OS, and elementary), but over the past few days I've noticed things that might bode ill for Ubuntu and it's family.

[Strong opinions on Ubuntu ahead, please don't take offence]

Ubuntu 16.04 is a slug insofar as going from login to desktop. Judging from other reviews not only am I not alone, but all Ubuntu derivatives seem to be suffering from it to one degree or another as well. Newer versions might have improved for all I know, but still...

Ubuntu and Ubuntu MATE are in serious need of a cosmetic overhaul as well. Ambiance is ugly as sin, and was introduced nearly a decade ago! Imagine if Microsoft kept the same theme going from Windows 95 to Windows XP (and now past that too). Sure, Unity 8 is coming in 15.10, 16.04, 16.10, 18.04. Honestly, this whole Unity 8 fiasco seems to have occurred due to the post-PC fever that happened sometime around the same time as Windows 8 was released. Both MS and Canonical latched onto the "convergence" hype. Microsoft eventually wised up on this, but Canonical is still chasing that idea and the convergence push they're making seems to just be delaying Unity 8. As a side note: I remember way back in 2012-2013 when Shuttleworth said that "Mir would be more relevant than Wayland in 4 years".

And finally: Snap packages. Canonical is pushing these like no tomorrow, which really bothers me (a link to the G+ post in my sig pretty much explains why).

And others have talked about regressions that were once somewhat easily solvable but are now nearly impossible for them to work around.

[Diatribe on *buntus over, back to the scheduled program]

So, no more *buntus for me. But where to go from there? And then I remembered Mageia and went in today, installing it on a spare desktop at my house.

Installation was a difficult task. I had to do a lot of work with a few tools to get the partitions right and I haven't fixed a sudoers problem yet (though that might just be laziness on my part). In all: a rocky start.

But frankly, it was worth it.

KDE 4 SC (which is the desktop used on Mageia 5.1) isn't the latest and greatest, but I like it more than the current KDE 5 (which feels a bit rough to me still). Not the prettiest looking thing, but much better than Unity's Ambience theme and purple/orange color scheme.

I'm still getting settled in here as I need to learn a few things again (I was used to apt-get, but urpmi seems simple enough), not to mention get some wanted software and get the theme tweaked. But so far things are looking good!

Last edited by Ru1138; 03-10-2017 at 04:34 PM.
 
Old 03-11-2017, 11:06 PM   #2
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Mageia is a nice job of work. I ran it on my dual-boot Win7 computer for several years and am currently running it on my laptop.

The one negative thing that I've run into is that the selection of software in the repos does not match by a mile the selection in Debian and Debian-related distros. To pick one example, the Mageia repos don't include gtkam.

Also, Mageia is a bit KDE-centric (though I must say I quite like the current iteration of KDE). If you want to run a window manager, such as Fluxbox, you may have to start the Mageia Control Center from the command line, which is quite easy to do:

Code:
su
drakconf
Ubuntu lost me with Unity. A computer is not a tablet, and I have no use for desktop environments that want to turn computers into tablets. That's just me.

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"Convergence" is a pipe dream, a myth, a tale told by an idiot, a sounding drum and a tinkling cymbal signifying nothing. To believe that your users cannot deal with different interfaces on different types of devices is to insult the intelligence of your users.

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Not that I have strong feelings on that issue.

Last edited by frankbell; 03-11-2017 at 11:07 PM.
 
Old 03-12-2017, 11:36 PM   #3
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"Convergence" is a pipe dream, a myth, a tale told by an idiot, a sounding drum and a tinkling cymbal signifying nothing. To believe that your users cannot deal with different interfaces on different types of devices is to insult the intelligence of your users.

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Not that I have strong feelings on that issue.
I agree 100%. But I do have strong feelings when the convergent UI bug wrecks something I liked.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 07:15 AM   #4
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urpmq --fuzzy gtkam
No package named gtkam

 
Old 03-20-2017, 01:21 PM   #5
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I've never been a big KDE fan but I have always liked Mageia and its predecessor Mandriva. I usually ran the GNOME edition.
But I have been experimenting with Mageia 6 in VirtualBox and I really like the Plasma 5 desktop. It seems far more elegant and functional than the "Death By Menu" KDE that I remembered from a few years ago.
The Control Center is one of the nicest pieces of software I've ever used. I just run the updater in there or the install/remove software GUI.
 
  


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