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Old 02-14-2021, 07:19 AM   #1
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Rapsberry pi - Microsoft repository..


Raspberry Pi OS has a Microsoft reository:

https://www.cyberciti.biz/linux-news...-pis-linux-os/

The response?
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/v...rt=25#p1813830
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If you use Raspberry Pi OS, you are trusting that we make good decisions about who to trust. In this case, to support our goal of delivering a better experience to our users, we have made the decision to trust Microsoft.
Yet another reason to ignore these proprietary firmware loaded (Broadcom based) devices.
 
Old 02-15-2021, 10:51 PM   #2
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Pity about all this, I had some respect for what the RPi was able to bring to the table.

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...In principle Microsoft could add packages to their repository which override packages in our repository. While it is unthinkable that Microsoft would do this deliberately or maliciously...
I find it entirely thinkable.

Given past behaviour, I think trusting microsoft is being unrealistically optimistic.
 
Old 02-15-2021, 11:38 PM   #3
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Given past behaviour, I think trusting microsoft is being unrealistically optimistic.
Sure, no reason to inherently trust them, but I think that Microsoft 20 years ago was a completely different beast.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 12:08 AM   #4
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What I do not like about them is their total arrogance. They think they have the right to do any damn thing they want to your computer. Well it is mine and I get to decide once notified of a change if I want it to happened. Them scumbags updated my firmware without even a by your leave. Want a change log to find out what is happening with the package to be installed sorry about your luck, it is not there for the packages they do. Where the adults are in charge the Debian packages you get you change logs each and every time. Oh the trash banned me from the forum for stating "it is my computer I get to decide what is done with it, not some programmer who thinks they still own my machine I bought and paid for". Slimy slimy slimy people.

Edit: I have since taken care of that and put the adults in charge of the situation, they have never failed me in almost twenty years of use, whenever Woody was released.

Code:
root@buster-raspi:~# cat /etc/os-release 
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (buster)"
VERSION_CODENAME=buster
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"
root@buster-raspi:~# uname -a
Linux buster-raspi 5.9.0-0.bpo.5-arm64 #1 SMP Debian 5.9.15-1~bpo10+1 (2020-12-31) aarch64 GNU/Linux

Last edited by HappyTux; 02-16-2021 at 12:12 AM.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 12:49 AM   #5
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Duplicate post. sorry.

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Old 02-16-2021, 12:51 AM   #6
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AFAIK it was removed after complaints. At least it is no longer on my PI400 sources.list.
Code:
$ sudo apt update
Hit:1 http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian buster InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster InRelease
Hit:3 http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates InRelease
Hit:4 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease
Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports InRelease
 
Old 02-16-2021, 01:42 AM   #7
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Sure, no reason to inherently trust them, but I think that Microsoft 20 years ago was a completely different beast.
The Gates/Ballmer microsoft was about seven years ago. I'll believe the beast might be changing its spots when it relicences everything under the GPL.
 
Old 02-16-2021, 03:52 AM   #8
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Whatever your standpoint on MS, the installation of a 3rd party repository without consent is a very bad form. It would be similar to subliminally adding the google chrome repository or any other 3rd party repository without consent.

When installing an OS such as for example, Debian, you decide to trust the Debian project and developers and maintainers. You trust the work of those individuals as part of a larger project - adhering to the guidelines, policy and philosophy of said project. What you don't give them licence to do is secretly add a binary repository, hosted by Microsoft, serving proprietary software. The arrogance is indeed breathtaking - as you can see from the quote in my last post. My answer would be along the lines of: "and as a result, I have in turn made the decision not to trust you...".
 
Old 02-16-2021, 10:09 AM   #9
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Whatever your standpoint on MS, the installation of a 3rd party repository without consent is a very bad form. It would be similar to subliminally adding the google chrome repository or any other 3rd party repository without consent.

When installing an OS such as for example, Debian, you decide to trust the Debian project and developers and maintainers. You trust the work of those individuals as part of a larger project - adhering to the guidelines, policy and philosophy of said project. What you don't give them licence to do is secretly add a binary repository, hosted by Microsoft, serving proprietary software. The arrogance is indeed breathtaking - as you can see from the quote in my last post. My answer would be along the lines of: "and as a result, I have in turn made the decision not to trust you...".
Indeed, welcome to the club...
 
Old 02-16-2021, 12:47 PM   #10
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I don't think the beast has changed its spots.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...em-4175690616/
 
  


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